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by pip » 30 Nov 2007 14:14
so you sent me a nasty pm
you feel better now . . .
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by martinnn » 30 Nov 2007 14:20
i'll feel better if we talked in person
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by yoyoboy » 30 Nov 2007 15:57
Mr. martinnn, I would personally like to thank you for one of the most entertaining reads in a good long time.
Impressioning side track keys for high voltage vehicles in the dead of night is all well and good, but what will you do when a customer hands you a grocery bag containing the remains of a mortise lock that they "fixed" on their own.
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by martinnn » 30 Nov 2007 18:57
Well that a good question and hear the answer, 1 bag 1 mortise cylender all past seperate.
Step one: , slide the key into the empty plug, then put the bottom pins back into the plug so that they all aline perfectly at the shire line and place aside.
Step two: take your cylinder case and pin guide/tube. Now take your pin guide and slide it up the front into the cylinder case until its right infront of the 3th'd last top pin hole.Take your tweezer and pick up a spring and put it into the 3th'd last hole, then pick up a top pin and push it into the top pin hole with the spring underneath and like the pin guide up a bit to cover the pin you yous pinned. Once all three are done, slide the pin guide forward to trap the three pins in the back revealing the empty pins at the from of the cylinder case, onces thier all in you should have the tip pin set with the pin guide follower holding them inplace.
Spep:3 take you cylinder case and hold it upright, here come in my opinion the most risky part, side the plug with the key in it holding the bottom pins in at the sheer line at an offset angle enything but 90 degree's into the front of the cylinder pushing the pin guide follower out the backand letting the plug sit back in the cylinder case, turn key to 90 degrees alining the top and bottom pin slots, nest look at the back of the mortise cylinder, you must now slide in your tailpiece in to tailpiece plate
Step 4: slide your spring into the cuttaway in the tailpiece plate followed by the cap pin.
step 5: srew your cap retainer on top on the tailpiece plate, push down on the pin cap as you srew the can retainer on, the cap pin will set in one of the cuttaway in cap retainer, to tight or two lost the key with have difficuliy passing in and out of the key way.
step 6: screw the cypinder case into the cylinder case houseing secury in place with the retaining screw thats allined with the retaining screw grooves on the cylinder case.
Step luck 7: move to the back of the door , attach the backing plate and the 2 retaining screws and your good to go.
charge the costumer an hour of labout,so that 60 to 100 just to show up. then a hours of labour 60 to 100 per hour paid in 1/2 hour of enen 15min increments. All together it took me 25 min, but i like to eat relax and play counterstrike in my work van sometimes. cottages and snowmobiles doent grow on tree. im not some rich kick im hurning for riches deas enyone understand.
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by vrocco » 30 Nov 2007 19:34
martinnn wrote:Step two: take your cylinder case and pin guide/tube. Now take your pin guide and slide it up the front into the cylinder case until its right infront of the 3th'd last top pin hole.Take your tweezer and pick up a spring and put it into the 3th'd last hole, then pick up a top pin and push it into the top pin hole with the spring underneath and like the pin guide up a bit to cover the pin you yous pinned. Once all three are done, slide the pin guide forward to trap the three pins in the back revealing the empty pins at the from of the cylinder case, onces thier all in you should have the tip pin set with the pin guide follower holding them inplace.
Hey zeke! He watched your pinning video!
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by martinnn » 30 Nov 2007 20:03
video what video, link my this video, in the meantime ask me enyother basic locksmith service question?? video link me this video you speak of . because i never seen one, i look at my basic 1 book and looked at the diagram, plus who needs a diagram after you put it together 10 time without one, thats it, you can repin a mortise cylinder.
say the door is locked, you pick it or you a brill, but this time up must open the door, and from the back of the un do the 2 retainer screws and using i piont pick type tool push down on the cap and flick it, this meathod will open the retainer cap thus freeing the cylinder from the cylinder housing, mind you , you can't repin a lock thats been drilled, so you get one of your wholesale locks out, make a 40 to 60 percent markup and sell that to the costumer make even more money, in the locksmith work thiers no suck things really as picking for profits, its mostly drilling and replacing, but its good to give the costumer the option, plus picking looks cool.
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by josh0094 » 30 Nov 2007 20:13
if there is nothing special about locksmithing than why are u starting a business.
 *crosses out 15 and puts 16*
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by martinnn » 30 Nov 2007 20:24
nothing especially hard about locksmithing. Im starting the biss because i love locksmithing lockpicking safecracking repo, basically i want to be my own boss work and work when i want  you can;t do something for a living if you doen't like it  that sucks
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by Beyond » 30 Nov 2007 20:42
martinnn wrote:nothing especially hard about locksmithing.
You've got to be kidding me. Im starting the biss because i love locksmithing lockpicking safecracking repo, basically i want to be my own boss work and work when i want  you can;t do something for a living if you doen't like it  that sucks
Good luck with that but you haven't illustrated that you have any qualifications to run a successful business. You get incredibly tempered when questioned. You better cure that temper before a customer questions something you do or about you or you'll be possibly looking at a negative reputation throughout your community or worst case scenario, a lawsuit.
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by martinnn » 30 Nov 2007 21:07
computers and costumers are two diffrent things, what has me upset is this attidude that locksmithing is hard, having a workvan,insurance and a yellow page add is impossible. I ran a biss for 5 year cleaning windown with a skweege on residential house ,very simple, honda accord + 24 and 34 foot laders with roof stand and straps, word of mouth and asking go my a 700+ costemer base. once i made almost a grand a day for 2 weeks, my service cost depending on window stlye, i was making on average 150 dollars a hour and more,costumers loved me,. doent tell me why i cant get a call, sure i'll make mistakes sometimes at first but that life.
go do some master lock militery drills lololololollololol honestly, what would happen if i posted with pics how to crack a safe properly with a torch, the hell with 15 thousand dollar autodialers would the post be hidden from me olololoolo
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by digital_blue » 30 Nov 2007 21:23
Ok... someone suggested it was time to lock this thread. I tried to read it so I could make my own decision, but it was entirely too painful to get through the awful use of English. After a long day at work, it made my head hurt.
So... I'm locking it 'cause it *seems* like it's not going anywhere good. But if anyone who speaks the language being used in this thread wants to disagree and argue it should be left open, you feel free to drop me a line.
Cheers,
db
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