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Auto Locksmiths Bmw, Porsche, Mercedes

This is the old Locksmith business info area and will be broken down to fill in the new sections below.

Auto Locksmiths Bmw, Porsche, Mercedes

Postby MadeAboutIt » 30 Aug 2006 8:23

I would like to know who runs the best Auto Locksmith course in the UK. For BMW, Porsche, Mercedes. I have spoken to a few companies that I searched from the Internet, all of them shy away from these makes of cars, and none of them could recommend anyone.
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Postby UWSDWF » 30 Aug 2006 8:29

I would think with the expense of thoes models of car most of the work would be through dealerships and manufacturers. Try talking to an authorized dealer/repair shop
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Postby Shrub » 30 Aug 2006 8:59

I deal with those cars but am self taught, to be honest i dont know of any decent auto training firms but you would do well to take the MLA course,

To do vehicles proficiently it takes a lot of work and study, a simple course doesnt help here,

A lot of people spend a lot of time in scrap yards on various cars practising before they start up but unless you know what your doing in the first place your on to a looser,

Try the MLA and go from there,
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Postby MadeAboutIt » 30 Aug 2006 9:41

UWSDWF wrote:I would think with the expense of thoes models of car most of the work would be through dealerships and manufacturers. Try talking to an authorized dealer/repair shop


Hi there, :D thanks for the quick reply :shock: I have contacted BMW dealerships and spoke with service managers that have told me that technicians are not trained to enter there vehicles. I asked him what he would do if one of the technicians broke the key, he replied that the dealership would have to send off for a new key, which would take a few days and call the customer and ask for there spare while they ordered a new key. I called BMW head office they referred me to career and training department who provided no such courses.

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Postby !*AMP*! » 30 Aug 2006 10:04

bueracratic retards...they always have to do it the hard way. Reminds me of how things get done here in the Washington D.C. area...*sigh*
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Postby MadeAboutIt » 30 Aug 2006 10:35

Shrub wrote:I deal with those cars but am self taught, to be honest i dont know of any decent auto training firms but you would do well to take the MLA course,

To do vehicles proficiently it takes a lot of work and study, a simple course doesnt help here,

A lot of people spend a lot of time in scrap yards on various cars practising before they start up but unless you know what your doing in the first place your on to a looser,

Try the MLA and go from there,


Good afternoon Shrub, amazed :shock: at the speed of the replies. I am already a member of the MLA. I had phoned them before spoke to a lady who’s name I unfortunately did not take, she told me that they did not do auto courses, So I took your advise and called them again. I spoke to Gill Ashford (training & membership coordinator) a very helpful woman. Tim Hart is the man that organizes the auto locksmith course for the MLA. He is away on holiday until Monday, these course are only open to advanced locksmiths that may course me a problem, as I am only a student member and will not know how I am to progress until I speak to him. I am in the process of setting up an auto repossessions company, while it would not stop me from collecting the vehicles. This is an additional service, which both parties would greatly benefit from.

Thanks


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Postby Krypos » 30 Aug 2006 11:47

shrub is so fast at responding because this is all the man does. seriously, i dont think he even sleeps. ive asked him before and he said no. come on at any time of the day or night and he should be on within 5 minutes of waiting. hes just crazy like that.

as for bmw, porche and mercedes guys, well, i think the dealerships would rather wait a few days rather than have some idiot (no offense to anyone here) possibly tear up or scratch a $70,000 car. safer to wait.

if you are going to be learning how to auto repo, then you should be looking for the fastest and most accurate way to get in. (of course you already know that though)

unfortunately, we cant help, not yet at least, the discussing of actual techniques, etc is advanced material.

but if you listen to shrub, things should go easier for ya. best of luck.
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Postby Shrub » 30 Aug 2006 13:31

Yawn, lol sleep whats that,


Dave, wait and see what the MLA have to say then come back if theres still no luck, there is someone who does training but he moved to Spain, he may come back to do a course now and again but i dont know the system he does, he may not actually even do that, pinky is the guy to ask about him,

Start buying car locks from ebay and scrap yards and then look into some tools,

The thing that may hold you back is that the places selling such tools require you to be a lockie but i think your MLA student status will probably overcome that hurdle,

As said the public sections arent the place to help you technique wise but if you hang around and make some good posts, after a while you can appliy for advanced access where any of your questions will be answered,

There are various options available to you, have a look around at previous threads where people has asked the same things and you may get a bit of a broader opinion,
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Postby Jake P » 9 Sep 2006 23:29

there is a small market that provides the tools and knowledge to make multi track keys for the BMW, VW, Mer Benz. Once you get a little expirence they are very fast and as applied to the repo business they head off additional problems encountered in the recovery using "standard" techniques.
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Postby linty » 10 Sep 2006 9:27

high-end european cars are very challenging, and not at all locksmith-friendly. i'd strongly recommend starting out with easier cars, the skill set is the same but the stakes and difficulty are much lower.
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Postby p team » 10 Sep 2006 15:54

Forget about BMW etc.Your bread and butter will be Fords Peugeots etc.Cars that people drive to go shopping on the weekend and lock the keys in the boot with the shopping.
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Postby pinky » 10 Sep 2006 16:03

you could do worse than contacting rob gray at ir training in knebworth for auto training.
having spent a while chatting to him on saturday at the sks open day, he really is doing a thorough training package in auto, i was at first sceptical , but having spoke to the guy, he changed my views and sold me , we may just have our decent uk auto course.
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Postby Rob Gray » 12 Sep 2006 18:13

Many thanks for your post mr pink it was good to see you at the open day. IF anyone would like to know anything drop me a line. I am trying to create the same high level of training in autolocksmithing that mr pink has done in the NDE side of the business. you can find us on google too. hope to hear from you soon
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Postby 79commando » 14 Sep 2006 14:02

If all you are wanting to do is enter the car and your company is legitimate and backed by the courts most main dealers will provide you with the key code to make a key before go after the car. Unfortunately you will then require thousands of pounds of kit to programme the key in for it to start. Even with the kit many modern cars can only be started using main dealer supplied keys as they are coded to the individual car at manufacture.

You may also need immobiliser codes, pin codes etc which can only be gained by taking the vehicle to the main dealer and a thorough understanding of what immobiliser or dash is fitted to the vehicle as this will make a big difference as to whether it is possible to program in a new key without virginising the ECU.
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