This lock definitely cant be picked conventionally!

[globallockytoo]

http://www.knocknlock.com/index.php?opt ... e&Itemid=8


If this is too advanced, mods, transfer to the advanced section please.

[JackNco]

interesting concept either way...

[freakparade3]

How about this one? http://www.styledash.com/2007/08/22/the ... -doorknob/

[Mark A]

Thats the latest technology in Digit-al handles

Mark

[freakparade3]

Thats the latest technology in Digit-al handles

Mark

Perfect!!

[Eyes_Only]

Reminds me of the robokey.

[jedidove]

If anything I trust things like this even less than mechanical locks. With mechanical locks you can bring security to a point where only true passion, skill, and craftsmanship that comes from years of experience and practice will bypass it (abloy, medeco, etc.).

There are few people that can beat the toughest locks out there and even for them its not a quick endeavor. Furthermore it takes such dedication to reach that point that only those who pick out of love for the craft reach it. Those people are not the people who use it maliciously. And I don't think the people who would use it maliciously could find the time and patience to develop the skill to reach that point.

That being said, electronics are the opposite. Hacking is in. The youth of this age are pervaded by it. Plus there all good at it and it doesn't take much time to learn. There is something about it that draws so many, especially younger, people. I say this from experience, I am young and most certainly drawn to the hacking world. I have performed my few little tricks (though never maliciously) and although they aren't on the same level as true hackers, I feel the urge they feel and know why they do it.

In the electronic/computer world the second a security measure is added, a way around it is found. And the way around it is found extremely quickly and is usually pretty undetectable and not very time consuming. Also the feelings of achievement and pride don't come in the form of a plug turned in the comfort of home. They come in the form of seeing something your not supposed to, being somewhere you shouldn't, or doing something you "can't". No hacker feels accomplished breaking their own security and they don't set up security to try and break it. They target the security of others.

There are "white hat" hackers but most hackers are "black hats". When some kid sees a new invention like this it will be hacked sooner than the first lockie attempted to slide a pick into a medeco. Look what happened to the iPhone.

[Raccoon]

The idea behind this lock is cool, and one I thought up many many years ago. The implementation isn't as cool, and seems to be one that could be easily hacked as stated above.

My idea was for an electronic locking device that used "voice recognition software" to learn the knock of authorized users, and only unlock the door when a familiar knock is heard. Contrary to what you may be thinking, it would be quite restrictive with billions of possible differs (signatures) for even the same common rhythm if overheard by a guest or stranger.

The problem with this particular knocker lock, is that it doesn't recognize any unique signature, except that of the store-bought knocking device. Modify this device to plug into a computer, and suddenly you have an auto-dialer.

Try making an auto-dialer from a fleshy human knuckle, I dare you.

[Raccoon]

Another bonus about this type of locking device, is that it can't be bypassed silently.

[Raccoon]

Btw, there is a similar technology that someone was inventing for computer passwords. Rather than just depending on the password sequence, it also required that the user enter it using a unique rhythm known only to them.

With that idea in mind, I also considered this would make access entry keypads much more secure, where the user not only has to enter their pin code to gain access, but they must enter it using a secret rhythm known only to them. I have yet to see anyone explore this technology though.

[mh]

In the electronic/computer world the second a security measure is added, a way around it is found. And the way around it is found extremely quickly and is usually pretty undetectable and not very time consuming.

not sure... How many electronic safe locks do you think have been hacked so far?

Cheers,
mh

[Jaakko]

Try making an auto-dialer from a fleshy human knuckle, I dare you.

Well, could you give me a hand here?

[jedidove]

In the electronic/computer world the second a security measure is added, a way around it is found. And the way around it is found extremely quickly and is usually pretty undetectable and not very time consuming.

not sure... How many electronic safe locks do you think have been hacked so far?

Cheers,
mh

Good point but such safes aren't everyday security. You don't have the whole hacker community looking at them as a challenge, most probably don't even realize they exist.

If you start putting these on doors sooner or later you'll have some kid on youtube with a laptop connected to this knocker and he'll be popping these like popcorn. Or he'll have rigged a tiny receiver based off the lock and have it connected to the door by some wire on the corner or something. He'll sit in his car and you'll watch as the owner opens the door and he has the code appear on his PDA.

[JackNco]

Try making an auto-dialer from a fleshy human knuckle, I dare you.

Like buying one of them and wrapping soe lambskin leather over the end?

[globallockytoo]

In the electronic/computer world the second a security measure is added, a way around it is found. And the way around it is found extremely quickly and is usually pretty undetectable and not very time consuming.

not sure... How many electronic safe locks do you think have been hacked so far?

Cheers,
mh

Good point but such safes aren't everyday security. You don't have the whole hacker community looking at them as a challenge, most probably don't even realize they exist.

If you start putting these on doors sooner or later you'll have some kid on youtube with a laptop connected to this knocker and he'll be popping these like popcorn. Or he'll have rigged a tiny receiver based off the lock and have it connected to the door by some wire on the corner or something. He'll sit in his car and you'll watch as the owner opens the door and he has the code appear on his PDA.

I think you might be missing one of the points here. The knocknlock has the great attribute of being a lock with no visible keyhole...therefore how do you know what is locking the door?

No sign of a mechanism on the outside means there is no way you can tell or devise a method of NDE from the outside. Unless you have X-ray vision....then they'll start building doors with lead shielding.