selling ethics

by **chip** » 28 Oct 2007 6:22

What are the guidelines on selling picks etc across the world.?

I'm trying to set up a business that the misses can run while at home with the kids.

I was thinking of an e-commerse business selling security product with a section for locksmith tools but i'm unsure how to ensure that thepeople i'm selling to are trading locksmiths and not the general public?

Any guidlines from the people who sell would be much appriciated

by **UWSDWF** » 28 Oct 2007 9:20

set up a cya legal section and then meh

by **freakparade3** » 28 Oct 2007 9:44

Many companies require proof that you are a locksmith. I don't mean the hobby sites that just give you a box to click "yes". The sites for locksmiths only require you to apply for an account and then provide proof that you are a locksmith. Insurance information, license info, bonding, company letterhead etc.

by **JackNco** » 28 Oct 2007 11:30

erm.... well most of us are the general public. but I assume as you are a trading locksmith you have had to jump through the hoops to order CB tools or similar.

John

by **chip** » 28 Oct 2007 12:39

A few ref yes.

I didn't want to just supply anyone that's not a true lockie. I am a trading locksmith yeah.

with the sort of tools I'm planning to sell, I'd hate them to fall into the wrong hands that all.

Asking for a copy of liability insurance would be a good start. there will be an on-line form as well to fill in with numbers for ref too.

by **JackNco** » 28 Oct 2007 12:51

well let me know when its up and ill see if i can trick the system and get the tools. if your lucky i might send them back as well

by **chip** » 28 Oct 2007 13:04

OK JackNco, we'll.hopefully won't make any mistakes but we are all only human.

It would be a good exercise anyway.

by **maxxx** » 8 Nov 2007 2:45

I would think all you would have to do is make a basic application in order to buy. If someone lies, and you retain the application, you could prove that you sold your product with "good faith", and thus have no legal repercussions.

"Are you a licensed locksmith, engaged in the trade?" (ya)

Save to file, ship it out. Simple as that. Maybe even print out the application and shipping invoice and put them together in a file cabinet by date.

by **JackNco** » 8 Nov 2007 3:16

No license here dude. just courses and certificates. but anyone with a drill and a crowbar can (and they do, all to often) operate as a self employed locksmith.

John

by **chip** » 8 Nov 2007 17:44

Quite true JackNco, hence the question.

The last thing I need on my plate is someone being nicked with one of my tools in their pocket and it coming back on me.

I did have to prove that I was trading and had to give people as ref for this, I suppose it's one way to do it.

by **dougfarre** » 8 Nov 2007 19:04

Why not sell to the general public, and tap a much larger market than such a small, already highly competitive market? The general public can benefit from your security products too, and that means more sales, and profit. If you market to the right audience then you don't have to waste your time proving the credentials of your buyers. In most states all the buyer has to do is agree that they are not using the materials they are purchasing for criminal intent, and the seller is off the hook. Now, if you are marketing to criminals, then you have a different problem.

by **JackNco** » 8 Nov 2007 20:02

chip PM sent.

by **ilmr** » 9 Nov 2007 7:40

Could you in theory sell in two categories?
For the public and the people that use tools for legit purposes and those that are licensed proven lockies would have their own section? Dunno what would be the best way to have the UI running and display your goods, but it would mean more volume and revenue. (and maybe some customers later coming back as licensed for further $$$)

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