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Highly pick resistant Disk Tumbler Lock

TOSL Project. A community project to "build a better mousetrap".

Highly pick resistant Disk Tumbler Lock

Postby 98AB49DC5A » 5 Feb 2010 21:33

My proposed design, inspired by inverseentropy's commit then authenticate idea, is for a highly secure disk tumbler lock.
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The idea is to lock the inner tumblers in place tightly enough that they do not come in contact with the outer tumbler elements after blocking (the orange sidebar allows less play than the yellow peg). Having the orange sidebar contact and transmit rotation to the outer plug also adds some variability to the max turning angle. so that measuring the precise angle of the keyway will not provide useful feedback. This is because the max turning angle is dependent on not only the depth of the main sidebar but also on the depth of the blocking sidebar.

This design however is not optimal. I think that it could be made simpler. I will post an image soon but before then will describe it in detail. I propose taking a normal disk tumbler design, a plug with disks and a sidebar , and adding a second plug within that. the outer disks have internal gear teeth that mesh loosely with external teeth on disks set, off center in the internal plug. The internal plug is shaped somewhat like a crescent moon. A blocking sidebar runs alongside these internal disk in a slot milled in the internal plug and is moved back and forth in this plug. the slot milled for it has tilted sections that cause it to move into the internal disks when pushed towards the front of the lock. Transmission of rotation from the internal to the external plug is accomplished using the blocking sidebar as in the original design. Said sidebar is L shaped and a groove is milled into the side of the lock cylinder in which it slides. this might be used to add core change functionality to the lock. the external plug will also be driven by said l shaped sidebar as in the original design. The blocking sidebar provides a weak point and will fail before the main sidebar rendering the lock broken but secure if the attacker tries brute torque. As an added feature to resist brute torque without damage the blocking sidebar could be spring loaded so that when excessive torque is applied it rotates slightly deforming a relatively strong spring. The inner plug , and outer disks attached to it, rotate but the outer plug stays in place. Aditionally because this design uses only a small amount of the outer disk's surface a master ring system might be possible. This might require modifications to the blocking sidebar torque transfer system by would enable an SFIC core change system or added resistance to master key decoding in a master keyed systems by eliminating ghost keys. I will post an image of said design ASAP.
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Re: Highly pick resistant Disk Tumbler Lock

Postby 98AB49DC5A » 5 Feb 2010 22:28

Finished modeling the optimized lock. The parts are all of the same color as in the last one.
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The orange blocking sidebar moves backwards and forward in the lock. The slot in which it sits has a sawtooth like shape that forced it into the inner disks as it moves forwards. it is L shaped(not shown) and extends outward at the back . It follows a track cut in the side of the body and also engages the outer plug after a small amount of rotation. There is a spring which moves is backwards. the yellow exterior disk would be thicker than it is in the picture and would have a gate. This gives the general idea of my revised design. The key would be circular and would be cut like an EVVA 3KS key with three curves which turn the wafers to the proper position as the key is inserted. wafers have either a long peg or a two short pegs. Pegs would obstruct picking or other manipulation attempts. overall it would be a good if expensive design.
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Re: Highly pick resistant Disk Tumbler Lock

Postby FarmerFreak » 8 Feb 2010 8:33

Your images didn't show up. I would like to see them as I have only seen the original image from the thumbnail below.

Just FYI. When you try to post images to this site, be sure to use the "preview" option. This way you will be able to know if the picture is working. I tried for a second to post your original picture here, but I couldn't quite get it. However, on the site you are using, there is a "show codes" link at the bottom. If you simply copy Forum BBCode (1) link and post it here, it will be a nice click-able thumbnail.
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Based on the older picture. I keep thinking that there may be a problem when you go to turn the key back to the locked position. Because the notches for the gates are all squared off, when being turn back the sidebar may not spring back out as intended when passing the housings sidebar groove. Most people probably won't stop turning to let the sidebar spring back out. At first I was thinking that you could just use a V cut for all the sidebar gates. But then the sidebar would likely drag and dig into the housing. So I am at a loss on what to do. It could just be that I haven't grasped the entire concept yet. Maybe there is a different piece to turn the inner plug that I haven't seen yet.
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Re: Highly pick resistant Disk Tumbler Lock

Postby 98AB49DC5A » 9 Feb 2010 7:04

thanks for the Image posting advice. I'll use the BBCode from now on. Though now the image doesn't show up on the forum, or at least the preview.
This is revision 2, of my lock design. I have 3.0 in my head right now but will model it later.
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About the sidebar, in my first version of the lock it was supposed to be spring loaded. The squared off notches are actually meant to prevent an attack. The blocking sidebar(orange) is meant to engage the outer plug(blue) after a certain amount of rotation. this angle id dependant on the maximum depth of the blocking sidebar. this varying angle means that when the outer plug is blocked the angle of the outer plug is dependent on both sidebar's depths, that way if you get out your angle micrometer and measure the maximum turning angle you won't get anything useful. If the blocking slots wer slanted, you could turn one of them relative to the plug thereby pushing the blocking sidebar against the body and get correct measurements, which would be bad.

In my second design iteration the sidebar, as stated previously sits in a guided cam track. this track pulls backwards and forwards in it's slot and thus in and out of the discs. no possibility of a jam as it would be pulled in and out every rotation. My third design iteration which is still unmodeled will eliminate the dual sidebar design and greatly simplify the mechanism, while increasing the space between disks. essentially it will be like a normal disk tumbler, with the disks rotated as the key is inserted, but this time each locking element takes up two layers rather than one.
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Re: Highly pick resistant Disk Tumbler Lock

Postby inverseentropy » 14 Feb 2010 13:17

Just to clarify, let me know if I am understanding this correctly:

Initially both red portions (the inner guide and the crescent) are fixed. After the key is turned a certain distance it contacts the inner red guide causing it (and possibly the crescent as well) to turn. This is what causes the orange sidebar to come into play, via some mechanism not shown on the back of the lock. Or am I completely off base?
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Re: Highly pick resistant Disk Tumbler Lock

Postby 98AB49DC5A » 14 Feb 2010 18:46

Exactly.
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