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Fortress lock from heck

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Fortress lock from heck

Postby tshock » 26 Aug 2005 15:47

I finally defeated my 40mm arch nemisis last night in under 3:00. I has 4 pins (3 of them spool and 1 serrated). In addition to the security pins, it has a high low high low alighnment that is a real challenge. All I can say is thank god for featherweigh tension wrenches.

After defeating this lock, I thought about ways to make locks harder to pick. I was just wondering if you could alternate the strenght of the springs(above the pins) to make it harder to get the right tension. I think that would make picking a lock mor difficult.
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Re: Fortress lock from heck

Postby n2oah » 26 Aug 2005 16:04

tshock wrote:After defeating this lock, I thought about ways to make locks harder to pick. I was just wondering if you could alternate the strenght of the springs(above the pins) to make it harder to get the right tension. I think that would make picking a lock mor difficult.


Medeco has already done this on some locks. (I think the M3 removable is one) I think the M3 removable uses two different materials of springs. I'm not sure if they differ in strength or not. Anyhoo, good idea. Maybe you should post it in the "making an unpickable lock" thread. :wink:
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Re: Fortress lock from heck

Postby treboR » 27 Aug 2005 0:30

n2oah wrote:Medeco has already done this on some locks. (I think the M3 removable is one) I think the M3 removable uses two different materials of springs. I'm not sure if they differ in strength or not. Anyhoo, good idea. Maybe you should post it in the "making an unpickable lock" thread. :wink:


Medeco definately uses 2 materials for its medeco3 interchangeable core, phosphor bronze, part #CP030001, and stainless steel, part #030042. The stainless springs are always on the 3rd and 4th pin sets.
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Postby vector40 » 27 Aug 2005 2:07

Doing exactly this was one of the major upgrades commonly made to Ace locks after tubular picks became common.
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My little fortress lock was a pain too

Postby amc31b » 27 Sep 2005 14:18

I bought a small 40mm, 4 dollar fortress lock the other day. it took me about 4 hours to finally get it. on the back of the package it says, made by master lock. the other master lock i have takes about 7 seconds to pick. i figured the cheap fortress brand would be a generic type master lock, just as easy to pick. man was i wrong. i didnt know it had secuirty pins though. i knew something wasnt right because after picking all the pins, the plug still wouldnt turn. well at least i have the confidence boost of picking my first secuirty pinned lock within 3 days of learning the skill! :lol:
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