Schlage Deadbolt Question

[Wesson357]

I recently bought a schlage 'High security' deadbolt to practice on. Its been really annoying so far so I took it apart and found that it has 4 spool pins in positions 1-4 and a regular driver in position 5. Is there any technique that I can use to determine if the spool pins are in the right position or do I just keep working on it and hope that luck allows me to open it. Currently Im using the hook to work on it.

Thanks!

[Eyes_Only]

oOooOOo, that one is tough. i have a lot of trouble with that series of Schlage deadbolts too. do you have a plug spinner? if you do try picking the lock in the opposite directtion and then spinning it around with the plug spinner.

[CitySpider]

You learn to feel whether it's false set or not. It'll turn very, very slightly further if your spool pin is false set. It won't if it's set properly. Of course, finding out that the spool pin is false set and being able to do something about it -- those are two completely different things.

[DivNoiSek]

Is there any technique that I can use to determine if the spool pins are in the right position or do I just keep working on it

are these just false pins to throw you off or what?

[Dosk3n]

their not false pin they are pins which are serated so when you push the pin up in will click a little and feel like it has set but it hasnt it was just the clicking of the serrated edge on the sheer line.

[randmguy]

Wesson357 I've always had better luck on the Schlage locks by raking first and then using very light tension to set the pins that I didn't get with the rake. Schlages are fairly tough period because they are machined to much tighter tolerances than the Kwikslop locks. Good Luck.

[DivNoiSek]

their not false pin they are pins which are serated so when you push the pin up in will click a little and feel like it has set but it hasnt it was just the clicking of the serrated edge on the sheer line.

Thanx Dosk3n that makes much more sense now. I have actully come across these before and never knew the real term for them.

[Eyes_Only]

The most difficult part of picking a schlage is dealing with the key way, especially for me cos I use a pretty thick wrench. I just bought a couple of the "high security" schlages since the last time I posted on this thread and I realized that its not all that difficult. I just rake the pins to set them, then pick the snagged spool pins one by one while letting go of tension slightly for each pin to let them slip into the top chamber.