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Wafer Lock Picking

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Wafer Lock Picking

Postby thekeymaker » 7 Aug 2006 5:48

i have a wafer lock here that i am having troubles with picking. i turn it to the right but none of the wafers will bind. not sure if the wafers are security wise. kind of like mushroom pins any thoughts/suggestions.
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Postby f0ku5 » 7 Aug 2006 6:16

Hmm thats odd. As long as one of the wafers blocks the lock from turning it should bind. Maybe try turning to the left? :lol:
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Postby pinsetter » 7 Aug 2006 10:07

Most wafer locks will turn either direction. Use very light tension and either a ball/snowman pick or small rake. Use a raking technique also to open the lock. These types of locks are very succeptable to raking, and if there is nothing opposing your tension, they respond well to a very light touch.

As for the lock containing "security wafers", I doubt it.
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Postby Gundanium » 7 Aug 2006 11:33

you could be turning it the wrong way, i've gone against a couple that the problem was they didn't turn both ways, and yeah logs or raking, possibly jiggle if nothing else is working
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Postby pinsetter » 7 Aug 2006 13:28

I guess it could also make a difference if the lock was mounted or not. If mounted, the latching mechanism could dictate which direction the lock needs to turn. If unmounted, one can remove the cam or latch from the rear of the plug and the lock should then turn either direction, and the plug can be removed from the shell. On most wafer locks there will be a latch mounted on the rear of the plug, and directly under the latching tailpiece will be a small metal cam piece that engages with a small metal nib protruding from the cylinder shell to limit the plug movement to 180 degrees. If the lock is unmounted, check for this piece and it's position will tell you the direction the plug needs to turn.
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Postby thekeymaker » 7 Aug 2006 23:57

the lock has to be able to turn right. as it is a switch lock for a mobility express scooter. i've tryed a half ball pick on it. but will try raking it tonight or tomorrow morning. Don,
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Postby Kaotik » 8 Aug 2006 1:34

I use to have a similar scooter to the one you have, fun little bugger it was. Your right, the one I had only turned to the right one notch to the on position, then it would allow you to operate it.

Sounds like it's just a wafer or two not setting. Like you mentioned, try raking it and see if that works, and let us know how it turns out.
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Postby pinsetter » 8 Aug 2006 8:44

Ah, now that's different. I didn't know the wafer lock was part of a switch. I was seeing cabinet locks in my head. Yep, almost certainly you'll have to go clockwise with that. I still believe raking with light tension is your answer. And be careful when you're raking not to damage the wafers. A lot of raking with a pick that is not finished well could result in worn wafers and prevent the key from working. You don't want to use a lot of pick force when raking either, and don't "rip" the pick out of the lock. All that is bad for thin wafers.
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Postby thekeymaker » 8 Aug 2006 8:49

actully this has two positions on and if you move it to the next one over. you can turn on the lights. i've been trying to lift each wafer up one at a time. so as not to damage it. but will try raking it later on today. Thank you Don,
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Postby SEVEN » 9 Aug 2006 22:14

I dont think think you should be picking let alone rakeing a lock you rely on especially if it's on your mobility scooter plenty of wafer lock's about to play with.And I thought vehicle's were for restricted forum's.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 10 Aug 2006 5:18

mobility express scooter



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Postby thekeymaker » 10 Aug 2006 20:14

this lock is safe to putz around with. what some people like to do is play/look at as many locks as possible. to see how they are designed etc.
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