Masterlock 6270

[csavalas]

Hey There LP101,

I recently purchased the Masterlock 6270 at a stopover to the Home Depot. While it is a fairly formidable looking lock, it is not as difficult to pick as I would have hoped. The first time took about 5 minutes to get the feel and has taken less than two minutes on the subsequent 30+ run-throughs. That being said, I can ONLY open it with my bent feather-touch torque wrench. I originally bent the wrench in order to trigger the sidebars of a Schlage lock on the door of my old apartment (Unsuccessful ). It doesn't make much sense to me why this could be, because, from what I can tell, the 6270's only security feature seems to be spool pins... The next interesting thing was that depressing the pins one by one, as opposed to raking, opens this lock the most consistently despite the presence of the security pins. Check out the pic if you are unfamiliar with the lock or my custom wrench.




Greets,

[digital_blue]

My overall experience has been that I'm usually far more successful single-pin picking Master padlocks (well, most padlocks, actually). I have a theory that this is because a lot of typical rakes are not spaced for the small-pin small-spacing common in padlocks. Just a theory though.

As for why you have the most success with one particular wrench, all I can say is that's just the way it is. I find that picking the right wrench is just as important as picking the right pick. It could be that with that particular tool, you manage to get just a teeny little bit more space in the keyway and that can make all the difference.

Just some random thoughts from my own experience.

Cheers,

db

[Bud Wiser]

Hey cs! I've spent a lot of time on masters, no really by choice but because they are so easy to find around here. Here's what I've found in my experience with masters. Master #1-15 (the junkers) are way easier to rake! They have no spools or security pins, and the only thing that makes them difficult is the key cuts pin order (hi-lo's), and spring tension.

These can be easy to SSP or a pain to SPP depending on cut. Better master locks with security pins, and most brass, steel and aluminum models are easier for me to SPP then rake with some exceptions. I'd rather have a better quality master with security pins then a laminated master!

For raking masters I use the half ball, S rake, W rake, and my own home brew version of the sinewave rake. One of those will always pop masters 1-15 pretty easily.

BTW, you should also check out Sears! There are two very good Craftsman padlocks worth your attention. The 2-3/8" Brass and 2" brass with the craftsman name. Both have spools and mushroom pins and for added pleasure a nice restricted keyway. Not overly difficult to defeat but fun locks just the same

[csavalas]

Hello again,

Great Site db, and thanks for the info budwiser! Just in case you were curious, I have since picked the 6270 successfully with my standard torque wrench. I was thinking about db's post, and I actually had less room when using that goofy bent wrench I have. So, under the assumption that it must have been a fluke before, I busted out the trusty one-size-fits-all wrench. Lo and behold, slips into the notch of the security pin, reset, repick, open. It must have been in my head, although I do maintain that the unnecessarily long bent wrench seems to give a better vector of rotation. Anyway, til next time, Peace.

Oh yeah bdwsr, I'm gonna check out that craftsman when I get the chance, always up for a new challenge...