Only 2 pins?

by **Kuju** » 15 May 2004 17:45

It seems to me that this lock only has 2 pins, the last one and the first. I just go to that back of the lock *click* and then to the front *click* then its open? should this be happening? heres a picture of what it looks like (the brand name is Leader but I couldnt find a picture of one)

by **Camarda** » 15 May 2004 17:53

Is this the same lock you have another topic about? If it is why does it say you think it has 5 pins in the other topic. And it is possible for a lock to have two pins, like the very tiny padlocks used on suggestion boxes, small coin boxes, etc.

by **Mad Mick** » 15 May 2004 17:57

I'd guess that this lock has at least four pins. The easiest way to determine the amount of pins contained within a lock, is to take the flat underside of a pick, insert it and push up all of the pins. Slowly withdraw the pick without releasing pressure on the pins and count the number of clicks as the pins snap down. The number of clicks will determine the number of pins.

HTH.

by **maldotcom2** » 15 May 2004 18:13

well i cant tell how big it is, but i dont think any padlocks like that could have 2 pins,
my guess would be youve struck luck with an extreemly easy pin confiruration and your just setting the rest of the pins with the shaft of your pick

by **Kuju** » 15 May 2004 19:31

Its not the same topic, but same lock....Yeah I finally rad the whole MIT thing and the whole forum and i found out how to pick like everything I can get my hands on.....Around my house I have 7 locks and I picked them all and some bike locks. but yeah about the lock...I only have to get the 5th pin and the 2nd and thne its open....like you said before it could be an easy combination.

by **Mad Mick** » 15 May 2004 19:40

Sounds like a similarly bitted lock where your pick is doing some of the work for you......

by **Kuju** » 15 May 2004 19:53

Yeah ive been picking it for like 3 hrs now just lookign to see why its so easy...now i just put my tention wrench in and my pick (to the very back) and but lots on tention on it and push up with my pick then its open :shock:

by **Mad Mick** » 15 May 2004 19:59

Apply the least amount of tension that you think you need, then reduce it considerably...

by **Kuju** » 15 May 2004 20:03

OMG, i just put my wrench in and my pick, put enough pressure on my wrench so it doesnt fall out, go from back to front and its open....The people who made the lock are idiots...unless im smart :wink:

by **Mad Mick** » 15 May 2004 20:17

Could be the bitting. I don't wanna pee on your parade, so congrats on a successful pick. Now get yourself a lock which you can configure to your own requirements/ability. A tough lock for a noob, which doesn't have spools/mushrooms, is a lock which is considered to be configured high/low.

This is - a long lower pin next to a short lower pin, and preferrably a short pin between two long pins.

Such locks which can be rekeyed are:
any KIK that can be taken apart,
any deadbolt that can be taken apart,
any rekeyable padlock (Which is taken apart by removing some sort of screw found beneath the toe of the shackle - the part which is exposed when the hoop is turned away from the lock body, leaving the hole which it is locked into)

HTH.

by **Kuju** » 15 May 2004 20:24

Oh yeah I know. This isnt the only lock I can pick around my house I have about 7 including doors and bike locks and others that I can pick. But this one is just to easy and its just making my mind boggle.

by **HeadHunterCEO** » 15 May 2004 20:46

get an american. without struggle you will not get stronger

by **technik** » 17 May 2004 5:15

mate, im not suprised about your find. I am just waiting to find a two or even 1 pin lock. If you think about it, why put in 4 or 5 in a crappy lock, because only pickers or locksmiths are ever going to know, and it would cut production costs dramatically (enough pins for 2 locks for the price of 1.) Ive found numerous wafer locks that do this (2 wafers, key has cuts for 4,) as long as the one is there, its still going to function as well as always, and the chance of it getting picked is probably one in a million anyway (if it is, it will probably be opened just as easy if it had 4 if its crappy.)

Really, shoddy manufactures that sell locks in SUPERMARKETS will be doing this soon, and it will be very common as the lock is already crap [pick resistance] so why bother putting in extra pins?

my 2

Tech

by **Kuju** » 17 May 2004 20:03

Yeah I dont get it.....By the way, what does your sig mean?

by **technik** » 18 May 2004 1:43

what dont you get?

Only 2 pins?

Only 2 pins?

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