Disk Lock With Security Pins

[philjur]

I recently purchased a disk lock that definitly has some security pins.

When I first took the lock out of the packaging and tried to pick it I had absolutly no success for about 20 min. I read somewhere that applying a feather like touch to the tesion wrench would make it easier and after about ten min of fiddling around I finally opened it. I locked it back up and for the last two days I haven't been able to open it again and I don't know what I'm doing wrong

A couple questions:
On several occassions I have started to pick the lock and it clicks to the right just slightly. I continue to pick the but nothing else happens. What does this mean?

Does it mean that some of the pins have fallen int place and only one or two are left so I should keep picking?

Is it one of the security pins throwing me off trying to make me think I have it when in fact I'm not even close?

Should I stop picking and start over when it partialy rotates like that?

Any input would be great!!!! Thanks

[ObiWonShinobi]

When it moves just a little.....
That usualy means it rotated into a grove on the security pin.
that will ease tension on that ONE PIN,
while tightening the rest...

now is the time to SLIGHTLY ease tension on that ONE PIN
but keeping a little bit of pressure on the pick and sliding the
pin to the NEXT click..... which is HOPEFULLY the sear line.

Spool pins have a crack in the middle that FEELS like the sear line.
But some pins are serrerated and have 3-6 cracks (Good luck)
Serrerated pins USUALLY are not cut as deep as a spool pin.
Cutting them THAT deep would weaken them.

[Eyes_Only]

Yeah if you snag a spool or mushroom security pin then the plug will turn maybe 5 degrees or a little bit more compared to the slight movement the plug will make if you just set a normal pin stack.

[Dragunov-21]

So I may be missing something here, but I was under the impression that wafers didn't have security pins?

[Eyes_Only]

I think the OP is talking about the diskus locks like the ones made by Abus.

[Dragunov-21]

Ah, that makes more sense lol, my bad.

[Marco]

i thought we weren't supposed to talk about disk locks in the open forums

[Eyes_Only]

Eh? Why not?

[UWSDWF]

choose not to read?

[Eyes_Only]

Ohhh, I think you're misunderstanding between rotating disc locks like the Abus Granit and a Abus diskus style padlock like this one here...http://www.locksmithtoolandsupply.com/s ... e=PDL-ABUS

[Marco]

Ah i see, thanks Eyes_Only.

Sorry, my mistake Carry on...

[Tempature]

i havnt read all the replys, but im sure they say most of this, perhaps ill cover something missed:


when it turns slightly, thats a false set. it can be a very good thing, especially when dealing with spool and serrated pins. though, disk locks commonly use mushroom pins, the false set is still desirable.

yes, it means that probably 1 or 2 pins are left un-set (hopefully underpicked, and not overpicked) you can feel with an offset diamond, or feeler pick which pin(s) are still unset, and if you find that none of them seem that way, its possible that its overset, so you might want to release just enough tension to let ONE pin fall (the one that falls will be the one with the most spring pressure, usually the overset one). repeat.

it happens alot to me where i can pick a new lock once, and then never again for a long time. i usually pass it off as luck, but i feel that when i can get it 3 times in one sitting, then i have truly picked it.




hope this helped, i didnt think i would type that much

[Tempature]

btw, your talking about disk locks similar to the master 40 right? if not, disregard my last post