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by raven252000 » 3 Dec 2007 22:11
lately i was putting together a practice board and went shoping for locks. in that search i found that walmart sells brinks and a off brand called mountain security of course i got one of both to check them out. i took both of them a part to see the type of pins and such and to make a long story shorter they are the same lock down to the mushroom pin in the 4th pin the brinks was about 15 and the mountain was about 10 made in the same place. they are great practice locks
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by Squelchtone » 3 Dec 2007 22:43
raven252000 wrote:lately i was putting together a practice board and went shoping for locks. in that search i found that walmart sells brinks and a off brand called mountain security of course i got one of both to check them out. i took both of them a part to see the type of pins and such and to make a long story shorter they are the same lock down to the mushroom pin in the 4th pin the brinks was about 15 and the mountain was about 10 made in the same place. they are great practice locks
Good catch noticing that the locks look identical... Both manufacturers are in fact owned by Hampton Products International Corporatation Here's their website: http://www.hamptonproducts.com/menu.php?pg=brands&sel=brandstheir website wrote:Hampton Products International Corporation, headquartered in Foothill Ranch, California, is the second largest marketer of padlocks in the U.S. The Company, whose roots in automotive security locks trace back to 1973, markets major brands including Brinks®, Hampton® and Mountain Security® security products, and the recently introduced revolutionary, patented Lynx™ re-keyable locking technology. Hampton and the Hampton Automotive Group currently market padlocks, home hardware, door hardware, security lighting and automotive cargo management and towing products.
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by sk337 » 6 Dec 2007 21:16
I've found that the Brinks one is a very good place to start when you move up to locks with security pins. I also found a rekeyable Brinks padlock at Wal-mart for about $20. It comes with color-coded pins for Kwikset keying.
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by New-York-Locksmith » 17 Dec 2007 1:22
sk337 wrote:I've found that the Brinks one is a very good place to start when you move up to locks with security pins. I also found a rekeyable Brinks padlock at Wal-mart for about $20. It comes with color-coded pins for Kwikset keying.
yeah, I agree with you that its a good place to start with security pins
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by raimundo » 17 Dec 2007 9:13
I have an old mountain lock that can be plug shimmed from the front of the keyway, it dosent have the anti shim flange on the plug. china has been tooling up so fast that they left out some things along the way. I believe this has now been corrected but its something to look for in cheap or unusual locks. Long ago, the aluminum frame glass doors for retail commercial use had a 'peanut' cylinder (smaller version of the screw in mortise lock) that could also be front shimmed. I last saw these in use in the early '70's but its possible that some backwater still has one around.
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by Eyes_Only » 17 Dec 2007 10:28
sk337 wrote:It comes with color-coded pins for Kwikset keying.
They re-pinable to a Kwikset spec?  I'm gonna visit the hardware section at Wal-Mart next time I have a lockout call there and I have some free time between jobs.
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by freakparade3 » 17 Dec 2007 10:43
Eyes_Only wrote:sk337 wrote:It comes with color-coded pins for Kwikset keying.
They re-pinable to a Kwikset spec?  I'm gonna visit the hardware section at Wal-Mart next time I have a lockout call there and I have some free time between jobs.
Yes, it's basically just a kwikset lock, but they seem a little more heavy duty. KW1 keyway.
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by Eyes_Only » 17 Dec 2007 10:53
Is it as sloppy as an actual Kwikset lock? If so I rather not waste my money.
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by freakparade3 » 17 Dec 2007 11:11
Eyes_Only wrote:Is it as sloppy as an actual Kwikset lock? If so I rather not waste my money.
The Brinks deadbolts I have are much better than Kwikset. They use Kwikset pins and keyway but seem much beter quality.
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by Eyes_Only » 17 Dec 2007 11:26
Hmm.  Now I have to decide between the Brinks padlock and a MasterLock bike lock with the rotating disc lock. Meh, I'll probably go with the disc lock. 
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by raimundo » 18 Dec 2007 11:53
I just noticed that a kryptonite bike cable lock cased in black plastic also does not have the anti shim flange on the front of the plug. This is not some old thing, it think its fairly modern. so if you have a kryptonite cable lock, look for that anti shim flange and tell us if yours has it, I recognize that there will be many different cable locks with this brand. the one I have has a very zigzag keyway and I couldn't locate a key blank to make it a working lock, but the plug is buried in some thick black plastic, but if you look carefully at it, it not only has no anti shim flange, it has a lot of slop tolerance between the plug and the cylinder.
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