Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

pin set order

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

pin set order

Postby xir » 28 Mar 2008 20:47

hello all. i've been at this for only a couple weeks now so excuse me if this is an easy question but.. do the pins on a particular lock always set in the same order? if i am spp'ing my master 17 and one time picking it, the first pin is the last one to bind before the lock opens, will it always be the last one? does the direction that i am turning the torque wrench in make a difference?
xir
 
Posts: 7
Joined: 8 Mar 2008 22:01

Postby freakparade3 » 28 Mar 2008 21:01

The same lock will have the same binding order each time.
Image
freakparade3
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 3457
Joined: 17 Sep 2006 12:01
Location: Cedar Rapids, Iowa

Postby Eyes_Only » 28 Mar 2008 21:35

If you swap around the bottom AND top pins too when re-pinning it'll change the binding order a whole lot more.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
Eyes_Only
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 4111
Joined: 17 Dec 2003 20:33

Re: pin set order

Postby bumber » 28 Mar 2008 23:14

xir wrote: does the direction that i am turning the torque wrench in make a difference?


ya the binding order will be different...it wont be exactly reversed but it WILL be different. like this is a crappy example but this is the order it would bind turnin one way and the number on the right is if it was turned the other way.

...4|2
..2|3
.1|5
....5|1
...3|4
bumber
 
Posts: 763
Joined: 3 Apr 2007 21:20
Location: Florida

Postby maxxed » 29 Mar 2008 2:10

should also mention that 2 locks keyed to the same key will also decode in a different order due to differences in the manufaturing tolerances
maxxed
 
Posts: 736
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 12:09
Location: Saskatchewan, Canada

Postby maintenanceguy » 29 Mar 2008 7:22

The binding order is the same all the time if you're doing things the same.

However, if you move the position of the tension wrench from top of the key way to the bottom or vice versa, this will sometimes move the plug a little differently and change the binding order.
-Ryan
Maintenanceguy
maintenanceguy
 
Posts: 349
Joined: 17 Feb 2007 14:05
Location: North East, USA


Return to Pick-Fu [Intermediate Skill Level]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 5 guests