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Masterlock 1500

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 1 Apr 2011 20:04

These locks over here tend to say that they are anti-shim, like this one http://www.masterlock.com/product_detai ... al/1502RED

They call it BlockGuard® Anti-Shim Technology. I am just wondering if this really is shim proof.
Here is a video:
http://www.hertzfurniture.com/videos/bl ... -shim.html
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby vov35 » 1 Apr 2011 21:11

wow, that's the worst antishim solution I've ever seen... lazy masterlock couldn't actually change anything mechanically....

I don't think that's too shim-proof.
The BiLock isn't the first bump proof pin tumbler because it isn't a pin tumbler.
And it's called a shear line, not a "sheerline".
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 2 Apr 2011 1:09

vov35 wrote:wow, that's the worst antishim solution I've ever seen... lazy masterlock couldn't actually change anything mechanically....

I don't think that's too shim-proof.


Well I feel like a thinner and stronger material is the only way to increase the chances of shimming the lock. Alluminum is too fragile at this point right?
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Solomon » 2 Apr 2011 5:08

Blockguard is old news... it can be shimmed, granted not as easily, but it's still not difficult. Deviant ollam did a video on it, which you will find on youtube.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 2 Apr 2011 11:17

Solomon wrote:Blockguard is old news... it can be shimmed, granted not as easily, but it's still not difficult. Deviant ollam did a video on it, which you will find on youtube.


Thanks I found it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qM5g1KPJYTQ

I'll keep on trying.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 2 Apr 2011 11:30

And I hate to double post but has anyone every toyed around with a plastic shim?
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Theist17 » 2 Apr 2011 13:56

Tinhajj wrote:And I hate to double post but has anyone every toyed around with a plastic shim?


Anything I've ever tried with plastic gets too brittle to use when it's thin enough. Shatters everywhere. I've never done anything with the more esoteric materials out there.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby thelockpickkid » 2 Apr 2011 22:28

Flatten a drinking straw. It can work most of the time. :roll:
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 3 Apr 2011 17:32

thelockpickkid wrote:Flatten a drinking straw. It can work most of the time. :roll:


Ah that kinda makes sense I'll go try it out now.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Theist17 » 6 Apr 2011 10:44

thelockpickkid wrote:Flatten a drinking straw. It can work most of the time. :roll:



Well, now I just feel dumb. Haha, thanks for the tip, dude.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 6 Apr 2011 16:54

Theist17 wrote:
thelockpickkid wrote:Flatten a drinking straw. It can work most of the time. :roll:



Well, now I just feel dumb. Haha, thanks for the tip, dude.


I tried the straw and didn't really like it too much. I tried it against the anti shim masterlock and did not get it to work.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby OrangePick » 7 Apr 2011 15:29

Just decode that sucker -- super fast method courtesy of Oldfast. :D

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=50135
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 7 Apr 2011 19:39

OrangePick wrote:Just decode that sucker -- super fast method courtesy of Oldfast. :D

http://www.lockpicking101.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=50135


Yeah I guess so. But I am pretty sure the masterlocks that were manufactured earlier are much harder to use that method because its not as precise as the news. Idk how to explain it but when you spin the dial on old ones you pick up lots of bumps. I'll have to practice some more at it.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby OrangePick » 8 Apr 2011 13:15

Yes, there are still lots of "bumps" in current models (I believe those would be false gates -- someone correct me if my lingo is off -- still new to combo's). The trick is to develop the proper shackle tension so you can skip the unimportant ones and feel the ones you're looking for. The first and second stops in Oldfasts's method are very distinct -- if your shackle tension is light enough to just barely not catch the little bumps, you'll catch these two every time. In fact rotating the dial against the first stop will pull the shackle inward, similar to counter rotation caused by a spool pin. The third is mostly like a speed bump in the road -- harder to find but the nice thing is you can just spin it back to your 2nd stop and scroll through again if you can't find it the first time. You don't have to start over.

Method works beautifully on my two 1500's -- and one of them has same 1st and last digits to the combo.
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Re: Masterlock 1500

Postby Tinhajj » 9 Apr 2011 22:40

OrangePick wrote:Yes, there are still lots of "bumps" in current models (I believe those would be false gates -- someone correct me if my lingo is off -- still new to combo's). The trick is to develop the proper shackle tension so you can skip the unimportant ones and feel the ones you're looking for. The first and second stops in Oldfasts's method are very distinct -- if your shackle tension is light enough to just barely not catch the little bumps, you'll catch these two every time. In fact rotating the dial against the first stop will pull the shackle inward, similar to counter rotation caused by a spool pin. The third is mostly like a speed bump in the road -- harder to find but the nice thing is you can just spin it back to your 2nd stop and scroll through again if you can't find it the first time. You don't have to start over.

Method works beautifully on my two 1500's -- and one of them has same 1st and last digits to the combo.


yeah I've noticed everything u said including the shackle going in at the first stop, just that there are too many stopping points I get confused. I'll have to get my hands on one again and test it out once more.
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