2 problems from begginer

[alfredbobas]

As it is my first topic and post i wanted to welcome everybody,

Now to the point: i've got a problem i didn't find the answer for on this forum (maybe because i'm not expert in english language).

First - i was trying to open the lock to doors in my basement, the plug turned about 90 deegres and it stopped (in the other lock in the same basement i tried to open plug turned about 75). I tried to push more with tension wrench but it would only come to brek a tool. I tried even put a key from difrrent lock and turn but it didn't help either. So i wanted to ask if i am doing something wrong or maybe the tools could be not good? Or maybe the lock is just undefeatable (third lock i tried to open was open as normal). I must say that a common door cylinder locks not in door but in my hand I can open normally.

Second question is more fillosofical: i've found that if i am opening lock to the right side (pushing tension to the right) it is less difficult than when I am opening lock to the left. Is it only me or that is just the rule ?

[commadore]

Now i am no expert but i will advise you on what i believe is the problem

First problem: Before i advise you on anything about picking you need to know NEVER PICK LOCKS YOU RELY ON, if you continue posting threads where you need help on an active lock you will hear that a lot, go buy a dead bolt or something. Now for picking if you believe you set all the pins correctly and yet it will only turn as much as you said im betting you got some security pins in there which makes it "false set" and also if you are applying enough tension that it breaks your tension wrench that is absolutely way too much tension for it. If this is your first lock your practicing on then i suggest you grab some master lock no3 padlock, their easy. No lock is undefeatable, but some can be extremely difficult.

Second problem:this is usually because you are right handed, its really just a preference but the way you are doing feels more comfortable because you are right handed (i assume) picking the other way is quite difficult, at least for me.

[hda7]

Second question is more fillosofical: i've found that if i am opening lock to the right side (pushing tension to the right) it is less difficult than when I am opening lock to the left. Is it only me or that is just the rule ?

It could depend on the lock. Because the binding order of the pins is different when turning clockwise than counterclockwise, some locks are easier to pick one direction than the other (I think this is most noticeable with a low pin in front of a high pin).

[gilduran]

First - i was trying to open the lock to doors in my basement, the plug turned about 90 deegres and it stopped (in the other lock in the same basement i tried to open plug turned about 75).

If I'm understanding your question correctly, you are able to get the plug to turn once picked 90 degrees, but the lock is not opening? Is that correct?

I just checked a couple of deadbolts I have laying around, and that's pretty typical behavior when unlocking. The plug will turn 90 degrees from vertical (key inserted) to unlocked. The plug turns slightly less than 90 degrees when locking the deadbolt.

I tried to push more with tension wrench but it would only come to brek a tool. I tried even put a key from difrrent lock and turn but it didn't help either.

I'd have to agree with commodore on this one. If you are applying enough tension that your wrench is about to snap, or bend, that that is way too much tension. The only time I have ever had to use heavy tension, was on a plug that used a spring to return the plug back to vertical once tension was released. But even then, it wasn't enough to bend my wrench.

So i wanted to ask if i am doing something wrong or maybe the tools could be not good? Or maybe the lock is just undefeatable (third lock i tried to open was open as normal). I must say that a common door cylinder locks not in door but in my hand I can open normally.

I'd be hesitant to blame the tools, if the plug is able to be turned once you have picked it. Unless, the plug is able to be turned with, or without, being unlocked.

Second question is more fillosofical: i've found that if i am opening lock to the right side (pushing tension to the right) it is less difficult than when I am opening lock to the left. Is it only me or that is just the rule ?

Certain locks are easier to pick to the left, than the right. I think it has to do with a couple of things, though. I think the plugs machining may have something to do with it as well, as the tolerances may differ from one direction to another.

I've got a bunch of BEST locks, that have multiple key options, are easier to pick to the left than the right, mostly because I typically pick to the core removal shear line, before I ever hit the unlock shear line.