A Lock that comes apart

[ski610]

Hey everybody I apologize if this topic is in the wrong place but I'm looking for a lock that disassembles kind of like the sargent and greenleaf 833, I can't afford that one unfortunately but I'd like something similar, I like taking stuff apart and putting it back together. Thanks in advance for any advice or thoughts and thanks to everyone for all the useful information on this site.

[Raymond]

There are a lot of padlocks that come completely apart. Locks made by American, Master, Schlage, and Abus all come apart and are relatively common. You can completely remove the cylinder and change the shackles.

[GWiens2001]

SOME padlocks by Master come apart. Or at least, some are intended to be reassembled after being apart.

Gordon

[ski610]

Thanks for the answers, I realize its somewhat of a silly question so.. Thanks again

[daniel22747]

You can get a good quality American brand padlock online for under $20. They are easy to take apart and are very good practice for dealing with security pins.

[ARF-GEF]

Go for one which has a changeable core. Some Americans have what I think is called KIK cylinder in them. Those should be taken apart and reassembled

[YouLuckyFox]

I really like the ABUS 83 (http://www.abuslock.com/SecurityProducts/Padlocks/83Rekeyable/RekeyableDoorKeyPadlocks/83Series2SolidBrass/8345S2.aspx.) What I like about it is it's available in different keyways (and not too expensive.) That way I repinned it so I have my padlocks keyed alike with other locks I use (I don't like having too many keys.) It is not the most secure padlock, but it looks formidable on the outset, and it's good for taking apart. I also like taking out the cylinders and use them for aid in hand filing a key duplicate.

[GWiens2001]

The ABUS 83 series are nice. But if the lock has a cam actuator, don't forget to put it back in!

Gordon

[YouLuckyFox]

But if the lock has a cam actuator, don't forget to put it back in!

Yes, thanks for adding that. The actuators on the ABUS (38 at least) padlocks fall out very easily and usually by accident . Bringing up another note, when I take apart locks I take the spring retainers and springs out while holding the lock inside of a contrasting color or clear bag; It is VERY hard to find master key pins and springs that fall on the ground (especially carpet .) When I take apart the rest of the lock I try to use a mat of some sort or at least a dedicated flat surface. Anyone use something like this? I've heard of pinning mats made by Sparrow but haven't been able to find them on their site as it currently is.

[GWiens2001]

I think most of us have had that problem. A pinning mat is best, but I don't have one either. Ideally, I use the kitchen table and a tray to hold parts (cardboard with one side torn off to hold the pins and springs in order). But that said, I am at my computer desk in with a bunch of locks on the desk and pins in the carpet that I never found.

Gordon

[phrygianradar]

But if the lock has a cam actuator, don't forget to put it back in!

Yes, thanks for adding that. The actuators on the ABUS (38 at least) padlocks fall out very easily and usually by accident . Bringing up another note, when I take apart locks I take the spring retainers and springs out while holding the lock inside of a contrasting color or clear bag; It is VERY hard to find master key pins and springs that fall on the ground (especially carpet .) When I take apart the rest of the lock I try to use a mat of some sort or at least a dedicated flat surface. Anyone use something like this? I've heard of pinning mats made by Sparrow but haven't been able to find them on their site as it currently is.

I have heard that Sparrow mats are better, but here is a link to the pinning mat that I have;

http://www.lockpicks.com/rubberworkbenchpinningmat.aspx

It works well and I like it. Otherwise just google "sparrow pinning mat" for theirs. It has places for more cylinders and slots for more pins.

[YouLuckyFox]

@ Gordon: That cardboard idea is great, if I understand what you correctly; do you mean stripping the cardboard to that ruffled part? I often find pins when I vacuum. If only brass were magnetic . Yeah, pins sound great going through a vacuum by the way .

@phrygianradar: Found the Sparrow Pinning Mat through google more easily than when navigating their site, though I have no excuse for missing it earlier. $20 is reasonable, thank you for the recommendation!

[GWiens2001]

Yes, YouLuckyFox, that is correct.



Gordon

[YouLuckyFox]

Never thought of that before! So cool, especially numbering each slot. Thanks for posting the picture!