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by lockpickingnewb » 21 Apr 2005 18:13
You pick wafer-tumblers the same a pin-tumblers, right? Of course, Im using a diamond instead of a hook, but Im having an imposible time getting the pins to set. I know Im using the right tension, because I can pick a few other locks already. Thanks for your help.
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by rayman452 » 21 Apr 2005 18:45
Waffers, I believe, can be picked one at a time. But face it, why would you waste your time doing that? Most waffers can easily be opened by raking them, I do mine with my snake pick, although mine is kinda rounded. Picking waffer by waffer is wasting time in my opinion.
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by digital_blue » 21 Apr 2005 19:05
lockpickingnewb wrote:...I know Im using the right tension, because I can pick a few other locks already...
There is no rule at all that says that you should use the same amount of tension on all locks. Quite the opposite is true. You, as a lockpicker, have the esteemed job of determining just what that amount of tension is.
Also, you might enjoy using a ball or half ball pick for those wafers.
Happy picking!
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by lockpickingnewb » 22 Apr 2005 16:59
I still can't get any pins to set and I've been trying forever! Any ideas of what I'm doing wrong??
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by Mad Mick » 22 Apr 2005 18:46
lockpickingnewb wrote:I still can't get any pins to set and I've been trying forever! Any ideas of what I'm doing wrong??
If you tell us the method(s) you are using, we can more effectively try to help out, i.e: I put the tension wrench in and apply torque, then using my diamond pick, I ...........
What type of lock are you trying to pick? Oh, it's a simple lock, the kind you find on a desk drawer.
OK, it's probably a single sided wafer lock then. Try this....
 If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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by Varjeal » 25 Apr 2005 16:41
Wafers don't "set" the same way pin-tumbler locks do. In fact in a wafer lock there are no "top pins", and that is important to understand. Also, as mentioned previously, if you are not opening the lock, then your tension is definitely incorrect...switch your order of picking, switch to a ball or half round pick, and keep at it. 
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by Geek142 » 26 Apr 2005 7:28
Greetings o lockpicker ones
Today i was strolling through my local store and i stumble across the ATM machine, so i thought Hmmm i wonder what lock they use the lock all the money up, i poke my head around the ATM due to curiosity and i thought this isnt right, they are protecting loads of cash using are you ready for it?.......a wafer. I have had some experiences with wafers and i can rake them open really quickly so its really weird, i thought that it would have atleast been a bilock, or a more high security then a wafer! But anyways it not my problem i just thought i would let you know. But i think that they should definately upgrade there security.
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by digital_blue » 26 Apr 2005 8:09
There are some extremely high security wafers that are not at all like those that are used on desk drawers and filing cabinets. I can assure you this machine would have one of them.
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by raimundo » 26 Apr 2005 12:06
actually, it may be just a cheap cam lock on the outer door, Atms have an outer door, usually locked with something common, the ace is used here, but this only opens to show the safe door within. and it may have an alarm on it with a keypad inside. the outer door only covers these items so the casual ten year old cannot get gum on them.
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