Pick firmness

by **Shadowx** » 12 Jul 2005 16:55

If I push up on the pin nad then it is very loose and when I release the torque the pin pops into place again that means it was set right? Or does it mean it was bound? Also how firm should a pick be? Should it bend at all when picking? What about the wrench?

by **Santos718** » 12 Jul 2005 17:08

If you didn't feel the force given by the spring, the driver is set. You should feel the tension wrench slip. And no, the pick and tension wrench shouldn't bend.

by **cracksman** » 12 Jul 2005 18:31

Shadow, I'm not sure you gave us enough information. What your describing could mean any of the following; 1. the pin was set correctly. 2. the pin was bound, serrated pins sometimes do this more often, but not set. 3. you have a securty pin that is giving you a false set.
As for your pick bending, unless you have a real tight keyway, in which you may have to bend slightly side-to-side, you should not need to use nearly that much force to bend it. As for the tension wrench, well that depends on the wrench and the lock, some padlocks need a decent amount of torque, most deadbolts do not. If you can give a little more detail about your lock and the problem your having, we may be able to give you more specific advice.

Happy picking

by **GateTwelve** » 14 Jul 2005 0:44

Santos718 wrote:If you didn't feel the force given by the spring, the driver is set. You should feel the tension wrench slip. And no, the pick and tension wrench shouldn't bend.

Not necessarily, as it could be binding up. And if it is set, it could be false set low. If it is either of those, you will not be feeling the spring's force. My of a brinks has given me many lessons on this.

by **Shadowx** » 26 Jul 2005 15:22

The lock is a 5 pin defiant door knob lock in the U.S., I think it is false setting how do I avoid this?

by **GateTwelve** » 27 Jul 2005 8:21

Tension is really the key when you start getting things that are false setting. If in the case you have the driver pins binding up, you would have to raise them higher (past the shear line), and probably start applying less tension when picking. You shouldn't apply so much tension that pins are locking up because of it.

There could be security pins inside this lock as well, causing the driver pins to false set low. There are many, many articles on security pins here.

by **Minion** » 27 Jul 2005 9:10

He says that when he releases the tension that the pins pop back into place... that's indicative of a spring coming back to push down on the driver pin, meaning that he just unset the pin.

Don't release torque to the point where you regain resistance in such pins. Be very gentle with your tools.

by **sillyboy** » 27 Jul 2005 12:54

I read that the tork on the tenshun rench is what really allowsyou to pick the lock.... thats the important bit.....

by **Chrispy** » 27 Jul 2005 19:52

sillyboy wrote:I read that the tork on the tenshun rench is what really allowsyou to pick the lock.... thats the important bit.....

torque, tension, wrench.

by **Santos718** » 27 Jul 2005 21:21

Chrispy wrote:torque, tension, wrench.

Dang it chrispy, you got to it before I did...Oh well. I find that the best, "I have no time to open word", spell check is google

by **noorudeenshakur** » 27 Jul 2005 22:15

I do believe he is being honest with regards to his name being "sillyboy" How young are you silly boy?

by **sillyboy** » 28 Jul 2005 0:24

Hi guys

I know this site is all about picking..... just didnt know it meant picking on fellow members??? whats with that?

Ok so spelling isnt my main thing. Gimme a break man! I am sure we can all learn something from each other.

by **Chrispy** » 28 Jul 2005 5:51

When you're getting flamed, you'll know about it. This was just a friendly correction....

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