Bumping SFICs -- POLL

[vector40]

This is a serious attempt to find out how many of you have bumped open SFICs (preferably BEST, but really whatever) locks. If you have ever done so, please state that you have, and maybe give a few lines describing in what context or what experience you had (you did it once after a great deal of trouble, you do it all the time and it works on every cylinder you try, whatever).

Thanks much.

[amc31b]

what the f*** are SFIC's?

[Ezer]

what the f*** are SFIC's?

http://www.crypto.com/photos/misc/sfic/

[Shrub]

You can read all about them HERE

[grit1]

As many have probably figured out my primary focus and interest are SFIC cores, as they are an oddly placed cylinder on the scale of security giving their intricacy.

I saw a different thread on here about bumping SIFC
viewtopic.php?t=10183&highlight=bumped+sfic
And thought the math involved in this was interesting.

I have tried different methods of picking and manipulating SFIC cores made by Best, with varying degrees of success. A few weeks ago I tried to make a 999 key in my duplicator freehand, without depth and spacing keys and it didn't come out the way I'd hoped. I will probably try again soon or cave in and buy some depth keys. When I do this, if you're still interested, I will try bumping some cylinders and let you know what happens.

The other thing discussed somewhere on this board was the sheer number of keyways standard SFIC cores utilize. The regular, non premium, non patent protected keyways available from Ilco etc., are 28 if I remember right. Then you have your formerally patented protected keyways, I believe with a W prefix, then the Peaks keyways that are still patent protected. That's a lot of bump keys!

I mentioned in a different post that the keyways don't seem to have a master section, but I have found out that some do. The "FM" keyway covers at least A [BE2] , DD , F and a couple of others. I think this is the only composite section Best offers though.

BTW, where's the poll?

~Grit.

[ThE_MasteR]

If someone can send one to me, i'll bump it.

[vector40]

Just a verbal poll.

There aren't 28 standard keyways. There are 13 or something; I made a post a little while ago going into better detail.

[keysman]

I bump Best, Falcon ,KSP a few times a week, I get the control about 50% of the time on the first or second try.

I have only tried on the A , D , F keyway but I would think it is just as effective on the other keyways.

The best results are gained from liberal doses of WD-40, and running a blank key in and out to 'loosen "everthing up.

[Omikron]

The best results are gained from liberal doses of WD-40, and running a blank key in and out to 'loosen "everthing up.

[ThE_MasteR]

The best results are gained from liberal doses of WD-40, and running a blank key in and out to 'loosen "everthing up.

???

[digital_blue]

I believe that was to say....

"Poor locks getting doused with WD40"

db

[vector40]

Nobody else, then? Literally only one member who's done this?

[amc31b]

You know, while reading this topic, i had an idea. couldnt you just get a "best" depth key set and use the 9 key as a bump key? All the cuts are at 9 and it would be positive that the spacing between the depths is exact?
With that being said, couldnt you just buy any depth key set for any lock and use the lowest key as a bump key? if that would work then you could just copy the lowest keys and have as many bump keys for that lock as you wanted. i know where you can get depth key sets for just about any type of lock. here is a link to show you what i mean. click the image to see a larger view of the 9 key.

http://clksupplies.com/shop/product_inf ... ucts_id=63

[NKT]

Well, yes, obviously you can, but not every lock you try to open will have it's lowest pins as pins that are higher than the bump key you made from your normal key! That's why you go to 999, because that will always be lowest, for nay of that lock type.

[vector40]

Buying depth keys is indeed a way of acquiring bump keys.