Bump Keys (Professional Use Only)

[Gundanium]

http://www.lockpicks.com/index.asp?Page ... D=634&HS=1


check it out, pro use only but they kinda tell how to make the bump keys, but I suppose you could about make anything on this website if you wanted to... for the most part.

[devildog]

Bah, professional use my &*$. Lockpicks.com specifically caters to hobbiests, not lockies. Trust me, they are not going to demand that you provide credentials of any kind. Besides, none of those keys are special or restricted; the everest might be SLIGHTLY harder to come by than the other stuff, but not really if you look hard enough (I have an everest bump key). All you really have to do is buy an everest lock (they're on ebay, among other places) and then cut one of the keys to 999 with a file.

[pip]

i'd like to know what " loaded with extra features " means

[UWSDWF]

a handle. nobody else makes one with a handle.....nope....nobody

[Dent]

possible "features":

-Master keyways instead of specific ones

-Cuts moved foward instead of shoulders removed

-Different material


Honestly though that is a seriously good price. Myself and 2 friends went in together for sets and honestly its more expensive than you would think.

For a local hardware store to copy a set of 6 keys = $11 x 2(so everyone has a master and a working set)

Then the price of the initial keys, around $7 each... so thats $42.

($42 + $22*3) / 3 = $36 each so honestly buying that set is actually a darn good deal at least from my experiance. I didnt even have Everest, Master Cut or the cuts moved forward which means that copies would work right away with no extra filing(or so it sounds).

Of course once you have a set, you could always try to recoup cost by selling them, but if you are going into it alone this sounds like a pretty sweet deal for bumpkeys if you dont know any lockies.

[LockNewbie21]

Then the price of the initial keys, around $7 each... so thats $42.

Where are you buying blanks? Blanks are 1.50 everywhere i go.. ebay there like 50cents if you buy like 10.

Somebody's ripping you.

The site is just following the hype, anybody in here know anybody that rights for a major newspaper? Do Ray a favor and tell them the truth of how good his picks work and how fast they open locks... poor ray will need about a case of industiral Tylenol to support the demand.

Just give it time before the adams rite trips are discovered by a moron reported... or maybe a boot?

Seriusly though how amny bump key threads do we need? I really miss people posting pictures of pics they made, or ideas... not bump keys, there d*mn keys.

[Dent]

That was the cost of either buying a depth set from ebay+shipping, or having a local locksmith code-cut(777 or 999, etc) the appropriate key.

I've done plenty of bump keys for free from older keys by hand(well dremel), but we wanted a set that was machine cut.... they work much better as each pin is struck at the same time... even though I had plenty of working bump keys, I still prefer the machine cut.

I'm a pin by pin guy, but you can't deny the allure of bump keys... defeating the lock with its own key. Nothing like taking a skeptical locksmith or friend, going up to their door, handing them the bumpkey and a hammer and watching them curse themselves.

Heck, just awhile back a friend was locked out of his house, and I was busy, so I had him swing by my office and grab a bump key for his house and he got in no problem within like 5 minutes using a beer bottle as the bump'er(and he had never bumped before). I guided him through it on the cell phone, it was like remote picking!!!

Let's see a pick gun, drill or pin picking do THAT!

-Daegs
*handing out bump keys to people not actually recommended, but it was a good friend.

[LockNewbie21]

I understand the freind thing, i have helped and taught my friends basic lockpicking, ofcourse my friends were after something other than a hobby, so i stopped talking about it all together.

But really i wouldn't hand out bump keys. Simply because i am going to be working for a locksmith and its not practical or professional. You were busy i understand that as well, it was a good deed to do, and you say he go in when he was locked out so its was okay.

But really I want to sound like a menapausal <-- i know i butchered that spelling, but really i am jsut tired of hearing about bump keys.

I liek picking locks.. yes i own some bump keys, i knwo how to use them, but really if i get a lock out call the pick come out first, its jsut me.

I picks locks for fun, come on here to learn about diffrent picking styles. Ways to better myself to help my... or in this case my boss's customer it the swiftest professional manner (does the boyscout salute)

But in a nutshell yes bump keys are available, and can be bought used and such, but i just grow tired of hearing about them, It's jsut a trend.


Let the flame smother, and a new furby or video game system will come out and bump keys will be out of the picture.


Andy

[pickmonger]

This weekend I got to see an excellent collection of bumpkeys demonstrated by a "friendly locksmith".

I work with several commercial and residential landlords, and we were having a security audit done on all the locks at some of our properties.

After the formal audit was done, our lockie agreed to have some fun testing out our collection of locksets for bumpkey risk.

In exchange for "the bumpkey testing" he got a nice steak dinner and a few drinks

He was using a set based on some self made stuff and the "Hawley Knockers Pro" , a $50 set of very nice bumpkeys.




Includes: Arrow (5 and 6 pin),
Dexter
Ilco
Kwikset
Master (M1)
National
Schlage (5 & 6 pin, 3 keys)
Weiser (5 pin)
Weslock
Titan
Yale

Every key worked well. These bumpkeys (or knockers) are well cut and machined into working bumpkeys, not just space and depth keys.

Oh btw, Hawley also sells various bump hammers and other tools and gadgets.

Unlike many other firms that claim to only sell to actual locksmiths, but consider a reference from ol' Ben Franklin as a valid locksmith license, (he is on the $100 USA bill) apparently Hawley Locksupply does closely check your credentials.

[VashTSPD]

Bah, professional use my &*$.

Professionals use your @55

[dmux]

sweet, i could buy them, im military wooooooo, because i cant seem to get home made bump keys to work, it worked 1 time but i cant do it again

[hobkkop]

Pickmonger,

Not sure if you know the answer but I'm gonna ask anyway Do you know if the "Knockers" are "modified tips and shoulders" or are they cut at an offset so the tips and shoulders don't have to be modified?

[Gundanium]

I have friends, well, aquaintances rather, I work with some summer seasonal people (my bitches) and got one of them into lockpicking, but I've haulted seeing as he's a spoiled kid (18) I let him barrow an informative video, later he took another video from my collection and burned it, which I wasn't too happy about, I have a feeling he's going to try to open a lot of crap, he just knows how to open locks, he sucks at it but there is always the luck of raking, so I need to explain to him not to talk about lock picking and not to pick locks that aren't yours, I did explain all this to him, but I need to grind it into his skull.

I think it's a good thing not to teach some of your friends unless they're will to read about the topic, because if you let them barrow a video and crap and show them how to just open the lock, that's bad news, not to mention they'll prob try to undercut some locksmiths with meadgar knowledge of a variety of locks and just screw everyone over in th eend.

[LockNewbie21]

I have friends, well, aquaintances rather, I work with some summer seasonal people (my bitches) and got one of them into lockpicking, but I've haulted seeing as he's a spoiled kid (1 I let him barrow an informative video, later he took another video from my collection and burned it, which I wasn't too happy about, I have a feeling he's going to try to open a lot of crap, he just knows how to open locks, he sucks at it but there is always the luck of raking, so I need to explain to him not to talk about lock picking and not to pick locks that aren't yours, I did explain all this to him, but I need to grind it into his skull.

Ha i hear ya mate. I mean i understand why my buds thought they were the sh#t becuase they could open Master 3, as i did to. But really its only ignorance now that i actually put time and ALOT of money down on my course and reading and talking in here.


But thats all i have to say the worg bump key gives me a headache now, considering what i had to write to that reporter to try and attempt... which it wont work to tell people the truth around my area.

[p1ckf1sh]

I work with some summer seasonal people [...]

There are summers in Alaska? Or are you just using the term to relate to the months when the ice on the lakes is so thin it won't support trucks anymore?