Hardest Padlock You've Picked???

by **csthomas** » 9 Mar 2008 12:38

Ok, guys I,ve been lockpicking for almost 2 months now I consider myself pretty good for how long I've been doing this...nothing compared to you guys of course :wink:

so as nothing other then pure inrest, what is the pad lock that you've had the most troble with once you got to be what you considered better then average lockpickers.

by **poor paperclip picker** » 9 Mar 2008 15:07

a master no. 3 :lol:

...but there was a broken key in it...I found that out after my buddy asked me to open it for him and I went there to pick it. He never mentioned that he broke the key in it. :lol:

by **immolate** » 9 Mar 2008 21:22

hardest one I ever picked was a best brand padlock.. took me almost an hour!!
I dont remember the model, but it was all silver in colour, re-keyable cylinder , and 6 pins all ignorant security pins... reminds me of schlage with a touch of nasty in it..

by **grabenwich** » 10 Mar 2008 1:09

my hardest padlock I have picked is an ABUS 65/50
ABUS generally make very good padlock

by **taracor** » 10 Mar 2008 2:24

My hardest lock probably was this military padlock a friend of mine loaned me. I really wish I could remember what kind of lock it was. His father is in the army so he has a bunch of them.. He wanted to see if I could do it, gave it to me, and went to class. About 40 minutes later I had someone bring it to him. He was pretty impressed, as was I. I didn't think I could do it since it was the first lock with security pins I had ever picked. I used all of those 40 minutes though, so it was no fast job..

by **le.nutzman** » 10 Mar 2008 10:17

taracor wrote:My hardest lock probably was this military padlock a friend of mine loaned me. I really wish I could remember what kind of lock it was. His father is in the army so he has a bunch of them.. He wanted to see if I could do it, gave it to me, and went to class. About 40 minutes later I had someone bring it to him. He was pretty impressed, as was I. I didn't think I could do it since it was the first lock with security pins I had ever picked. I used all of those 40 minutes though, so it was no fast job..

I'm wondering if you're referring to the American 5200 military grade padlock. If you are, congrats on a job well done. The 5200 is by no means an easy lock to pick as it comes standard with spool, serrated and spoorated (serrated spool) pins in a pretty large arrangement. I know because I pick them open on a regular basis as I'm in the military and have access to them pretty regularly. 40 minutes for your first time is a very good time, again, i'm assuming it was a 5200. I know my best time for a 5200 right now is just under a minute. I had one 5200 that I was able to pick open in under 25 seconds, I know that's how long it was because I recorded it with my camera phone and that's all the time I get for a film clip......LOL!

Right now the hardest lock that I have THOUGHT about trying to pick open is a Medeco 51S biaxial lock. Just haven't the forethought about how to go about picking it just yet.

by **csthomas** » 10 Mar 2008 14:26

does this military lock have any markings on it? because my nephew gave me his lock from the navy and i picked it in about...15 minutes.

by **JK_the_CJer** » 10 Mar 2008 15:12

Hardest padlock? Probably an American 5200. I sort of switched to mortise cylinders, though. I did get very close to opening Emrys' S&G 831 padlock, but never got it :-P

by **taracor** » 10 Mar 2008 19:04

Yep, American 5200 sounds right. As a matter of fact, I just googled it, and yeah that was indeed the lock I picked.

Heh, no wonder it was such a pain to open, that's a lot of security pins.

Nutzman, do you happen to have a copy of that video? That would be pretty impressive to see!

by **Pickingsainteasy** » 11 Mar 2008 23:24

well, i still havent picked it. Its a schlage everest padlock. however ive seen someone pick it in 30 seconds. :shock:

by **cracksman** » 12 Mar 2008 0:06

Abus Diskus 24/70

small keyway, used Peterson picks, the slim ones. Its a decent lock for the price. The brinks shrouded was tougher, a lot of spools and the tolerances are sloppy, making it more difficult. Can pick both with ease now, but thats because i got to know them well over many trying months. I suggest getting an ABUS if u can, nice tight keyway, a good challenge.

by **cracksman** » 12 Mar 2008 0:20

As far as Schlage I've dealt with, they are the premium "Kwikset".
They provide a nice challenge, if you feel that one is too hard then sit back and relax and try again. They have tighter tolerance but give lovely feedback in my opinion. They want to be picked

by **cracksman** » 12 Mar 2008 0:26

sorry though, the schlage aren't padlocks

by **Jonathan1776** » 13 Mar 2008 3:30

My hardest pick was a Brinks Shrouded Shackle Padlock, model 2013 (the equivalent of MasterLock 533). It is difficult because the cylinder is very, very tight and stays wherever it is after you release tension, rather then pressing back towards the neutral position. This makes it extremely difficult to feel and manipulate the security pins. You basically have to actively use the tension wrench to rotate the cylinder backwards to get past the security pin's edge rather then the normal method of passively lightenning tension and letting the cylinder rotate itself back as pressure is put on the pin. Likewise, to even get that backwards cylnder motion that initially clues you into the fact you are dealing with a security pin requires an enormous amount of pressure on the pin.

Also, as an owner of several Brinks locks, I have to say that I think the tolerances must be a lot lower/better/tighter then their MasterLock counterparts, making them more difficult to pick. It usually takes me 3 times longer to pick one then a MasterLock.

by **The Dutch Connection** » 18 Mar 2008 3:49

grabenwich wrote:my hardest padlock I have picked is an ABUS 65/50
ABUS generally make very good padlock

Thank ***...
i thought it was just me!... New as i am at this, i thought myself pretty succesful at SPP a nice number of deadbolds and other euro doorlocks of reasonable quality...

but every day in the train to work i'm strugling with this very same, very defiant padlock! and not alble to crack it...

and in all honesty, for the most common padlock available in my country it's pretty soundly machined and fits together pretty well.

it also seems they have a sort of wedge in the back of the keyway (at least thats wat it feels like) that prevents me from feeling the back pins as well as i'd like...

Is raking generaly easyer with pad locks? guess it depends right? couse i'm a better SPP-er than raker

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