Anyone know the trick to this one?

[buckjohnson]

Been trying and trying at this brinks, as i've picked 4 other locks and my deadbolt and doorlock, this one is posing some major stress:) I'm very new to the scene...there's my set and if anyone has the best idea, do let me know.

BTW...HI Y'ALL:)






and my set if need be.

[zeke79]

at least 2 spool pins in that lock, if not 2 then 3. Do a search for picking spool pins or get yourself a kwikset deadbolt to work on for a bit.

[buckjohnson]

....i was afraid of that answer.



::cries::


i'm not that good yet hehe.

[salzi684]

Tips-

-Get that twist flex out of there and replace it with a standard tension wrench

-Be sure to use enough turning force to overcome the spring on the plug of that lock

When picking that same lock I tend to use what I would call 'mildly excessive' turning force. As you probably already know that lock has four pins and it is a good lock for learning what spool pins will feel like.

[vector40]

Why do you say use an untwisted tensor, salz?

[Dr Money]

for higher tension, dont want to bend your flex out of wack

[buckjohnson]

thanks guys....sounds good..

[raimundo]

That lock is a rebranded Abus discus, use small picks because of the small keyway, if you have a small rake, sand it smooth, and it will do the lock with light intermittent tension. By intermittent tension, I mean moving your tension finger back and forth to make the tension alternately light and moderate. it can also be picked with a small half diamond that has been sanded smooth. These locks are german and appear rebranded in numerous types, kryptonite also makes one, the visible difference in the kryptonite is that the clamshell case is not welded in the dip under the shackle, you can see a gap there in the kryptonite version. There is even a national mini storage company that has these rebranded for them. They are difficult to open in a shrouded hasp location until you make a certain type of tensor that is not obstructed by the shroud over the hasp. Then they are easy. Turns clockwise. Except for the kryptonite, I believe that these all come from the same factory in germany, rebranded by liscense. If the kryptonite was made there, they would have welded it right. Long ago, these locks were made without the bottom drain hole, but it was found that when filled with water and frozen the lock doesnt work, so they put in a little hole in the clamshell weld to drain water. If you see an old abus without this hole, its more than 20 years old.

[bembel]

Are you sure this padlock was produced and rebranded by Abus?
I've got an original Abus Diskus and also some clones, but all of them are rather cheap crap. The only thing they've got in common are the Diskus design, but not the quality.
Sometimes you need more tension on them to move the shackle. Happened to me that I already picked a Diskus lock and didn't realize it because the shackle did not move.

P.S. Nice pictures, but posting 1600x1200 explodes the forum's borders. You should keep them smaller next time

[Sabin37]

My Abus 85/50 has a little hole beside the plug, so I assume it's a drain hole then.

[salzi684]

vector, I said to use a regular tension wrench becuase if buckjohnson's lock is anything like mine then it takes a good bit of force just to overcome the spring on the plug and therefore the twistflex makes a poor choice, IMHO.

raimundo, bembel is right, that lock is completly different from an abus, take a look at the keyway, does it remind you of a Master Lock M1 keyway at all? (they are the same)

[vector40]

Does the spring engage past the point that the pins bind?

Meaning, if you just stick something in there and try to twist, does the spring resist at all before the pins themselves block the turn?

[salzi684]

yes

[raimundo]

abus and kryptonite are manufacturers, brinks is a service company, as is the mini storage company whos name I do not remember, they are all probably connected to a big cartel like tyco or something, I doubt the brinks would have set up a factory to produce padlocks when all they really have to sell is the name. Abus discus can be seen wearing various brand names, the likelyhood of these service companies having manufacturing facilities is low. Some other members have a better handle on who owns which, Chucklz and Lockmistress seem to be in touch with that sort of thing if memory serves.

[raimundo]

about picking the discus, the plug will turn a little bit when its picked without engaging the linkage to the shackle, the shackle may be difficult to turn if lubrication is gone, but if you see the plug turn, try a small screwdriver. The european method is to keep a fingertip on the plug and feel it move, that can be hard to do with small plugs, try putting tension on it and with tension on see if a black marker can make a line accross the shear line of the plug and cylinder, if this moves, you are either hung up on spools or the lock is picked.