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Postby Omikron » 22 Dec 2005 20:24

HeadHunterCEO wrote:thats the Cadillac of bumping tools

Why does the thickness of the handles(?) vary?


All of the handles have the same thickness except one, and that is because it was cut from the last part of the sheet of material. I guess the Q.C. wasn't the greatest when the sheets were manufactured, but the one that's thinner has some extra swing to it, and it allows me to see if it makes a difference at all to the bumping process.

This way, I can adjust the final version accordingly.

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Postby Shrub » 22 Dec 2005 20:25

Unless youve been storing it upright instead of flat :wink:
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 22 Dec 2005 20:27

Have you used those in the field yet?

customers must get a kick out of that
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Postby Omikron » 22 Dec 2005 20:33

HeadHunterCEO wrote:Have you used those in the field yet?

customers must get a kick out of that


:lol:

I'm not an actively trading locksmith. Although I do make certain recommendations and have just taken up vending BiLock in my area, I'm not quite what one would consider a "full-service locksmith". ;-)

On a similar note, I'm trying some different methods of preventing any denting or damage to the cylinder from repeated bumping. I'll post my findings when they're due.
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Postby illusion » 22 Dec 2005 20:36

remove the shoulder of the bumpkey, and make a new shoulder with a hot glue gun... that works for me :)
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Postby Shrub » 22 Dec 2005 20:38

Ive now found that just fileing the shoulder a bit (1-1.5mm off) and then useing the hot glue works, you just get that springyness.
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Postby illusion » 22 Dec 2005 20:41

I see what you mean Shrub - the bump key I have worked so I left it lol... must try that somtime.

what is the handle part (sodd technical terms :wink: ) of the tomohawk made of?
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Postby digital_blue » 22 Dec 2005 20:42

Omikron wrote:...I'm trying some different methods of preventing any denting or damage to the cylinder from repeated bumping. I'll post my findings when they're due.


I've thought a bit about a hard rubber disk with a small slot cut out to accommodate the key, but not the shoulder. If the disk was, say, 1/4 inch thick then you would just need to take 1/4 off the shoulder so that it hit the rubber disk just above the "keyway" on the disk. The way I see it, it would be interchangeable for different keyways and if all your bump keys were cut to accommodate this disk, you'd be ready to go.

Not sure if it'd work for sure, but it seems to me like it would.

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Postby Shrub » 22 Dec 2005 20:44

I did actually try that but couldnt find a decent rubber and it didnt work too well, maybe if you use the pull back one method it would.
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Postby Omikron » 22 Dec 2005 20:48

illusion wrote:I see what you mean Shrub - the bump key I have worked so I left it lol... must try that somtime.

what is the handle part (sodd technical terms :wink: ) of the tomohawk made of?


Currently, the handle is made of Ultra High Molecular Weight (UHMW) plastic. This is the same type of plastic that milk jugs are made of. :-)

However, I have been playing with some other materials and I am still waiting on feedback before I finish my evaluations.
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Postby illusion » 22 Dec 2005 20:57

ohhh... this is getting interesting now :)

I always toyed with the idea of PVC plastic as a cheap and easy material... but need to get round to trying it fully.

doesn't sound as cool as "Ultra High Molecular Weight" Plastic though :(
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Postby digital_blue » 22 Dec 2005 22:24

To me, a more important question is "What is the striking head made of?"

That seems to be a bit of a mystery with the original Tomahawk. Based on the pictures, it looks to me like you've got it exactly right.

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Postby Omikron » 22 Dec 2005 22:28

digital_blue wrote:To me, a more important question is "What is the striking head made of?"

That seems to be a bit of a mystery with the original Tomahawk. Based on the pictures, it looks to me like you've got it exactly right.

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Yes, I spent a good deal of time figuring out that particular material... :twisted:
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Postby vector40 » 22 Dec 2005 22:30

The biggest drawback to these various ideas of no-harm bumping is the trouble involved. If you have a lot of bump keys, it's prohibitive to craft some elaborate system of glue and cushions for each.
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Postby digital_blue » 22 Dec 2005 22:44

This is why I favour the idea of a hard rubber disk with a keyway in it. Then, when you're making your bump keys, you can simply cut the shoulder to accommodate the disk and it's done. No fuss, no muss. You were gonna be cutting back the shoulder a bit anyway. Why not make it 1/4 inch?

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