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Combination Master Locks Cracking

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Postby brugge » 12 Mar 2006 23:55

you can also use a stethiscope to help hear the clicks or if you have the old type phone that has the cord and twist-to-dial pad you can take the recever unhook the cord, unscrew the talking peice then hold the earpeice in your sholder up to your ear and put the takling peice up to the lock in question, from there it should work as a stethiscope for cheeper and more easy to find uses, if it doesnt work your doin it wrong. its also more fun and getto then a stethiscope
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I made a mistake.

Postby jeremy » 13 Mar 2006 3:56

I'd like to make a revision to one of my previous posts. I seem to have inaccurately measured a couple of gates.

14.7 - 15.4 (.7) --> 14.6 - 15.4 (.8)
17.2 - 19 (1.8) --> 17.7 - 18.6 (.9)

I don't know what happened there, but I guess it never hurts to double-check your measurements. In this particular case, the error contributed to my thinking, mistakenly, that the last number of the combination was 18. How embarrassing.

This leaves no gate that really jumps out at you, at least not based on gate width alone. They are all in the .7 - .9 range. Let's look at those gates again:

1.1 - 2
4.5 - 5.2
7.8 - 8.5
11.1 - 11.9
14.7 - 15.4
17.7 - 18.6
21 - 31.8
24.3 - 25.1
27.6 - 28.5
31 - 31.7
34.3 - 35.1
37.8 - 38.7

If we eliminate all those ranges that do not contain both an integer and at least .3 dial increments on each side of that integer (figuring the manufacturer would only use integers and would have those integers reasonably well centered in the gates), we are left with a much shorter list:

14.6 - 15.4
27.6 - 28.5

So let's look at how those two gates compare to others, looking for uneven placement of gates around the dial. It's easiest to group the gates by the ones digit:

Group A:
4.5 - 5.2
14.6 - 15.4 (true gate candidate A)
24.3 - 25.1
34.3 - 35.1

Group B:
7.8 - 8.5
17.7 - 18.6 (true gate candidate B)
27.6 - 28.5
37.8 - 38.7

Notice that candidate A is somewhat clockwise of where it seems to belong in the pattern. Candidate B, on the other hand, fits in pretty well with the pattern.

So candidate A it is! (Because of its non-uniform position in the pattern.) The third number of the combination, then, is 15. (g[3] = 15) And we go from there. The combination turned out to be 7-25-15. It would have been found rather quickly if it were not for my error.

[Note: I've found rather large true gates like what I *thought* I found here on Master "Sphero" padlocks.]
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