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How to open SECOM 550S

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Postby gang_wheell » 13 May 2006 0:36

toomush2drink wrote:These can also be picked with a hook or diamond.You need to get the tension right and the double pronged tension tool can realy be useful.Ive a couple of similar locks and each side only has 2 pins, they also do these for the additional garage door bolts you can get.Some of the budget burgwatcher digital safes have this type of lock as the back up key.

say right,but this secom have 4 pins of side, 3 side had jointly 12pins,1 side don't have pin there i put a tension wrench.
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Postby gang_wheell » 13 May 2006 1:23

I open it :D
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Postby USMAN » 14 May 2006 12:53

WoW! i Have Never seen this type of Lock! Most Probably some1 Around Can Help You With This :P
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Postby illusion » 14 May 2006 12:57

I don't think he needs help anymore - he can now open it. :)

Oh yeah - it has pins, not wafers - the one I have threw me off when I looked at it, but it's simply because there is no warding, and the pins are wider that they might be mistaken for wafers.

How long did it take you mate? :)
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Postby gang_wheell » 14 May 2006 14:08

I open it maybe 50-60 seconds,but the lock is very good.
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Cruciform locks

Postby fjardeson » 27 May 2006 15:43

I've seen this kind of cylinder on those CLUB devices you use to lock your steering wheels. I've never seen one on a padlock though.

The problem with the cruciform style is that the are very few positions for each pin stack, because of the nature of the lock and limitations on the size of the key (If the key had the same number of pin-stack settings on all four blades that a KW1 did, the cylinder plug alone would be close to 1" in diameter!)

Did you pin-by-pin or scrub?
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I'll call your S&G 8500 and raise you a RKL-10!
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Postby Jason13 » 27 May 2006 19:15

i think he raked it since if you look in the pick its a souble ball type pick
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Postby maxxed » 27 May 2006 20:26

Papaiz makes a padlock with this type of key, it has pins on all 4 sides.
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Re: Cruciform locks

Postby gang_wheell » 28 May 2006 2:02

fjardeson wrote:Did you pin-by-pin or scrub?


Scrub :D
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Postby skold » 28 May 2006 3:18

maxxed wrote:Papaiz makes a padlock with this type of key, it has pins on all 4 sides.


It sure does, it also has a fistfull of spools!
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keyway

Postby raimundo » 28 May 2006 9:57

when you look close at the cruciform keyway, one leg of the x is thicker, this is so that the key does not have to be absolutly symetrical, this part of the key will not insert until its aligned with the thicker leg. In some of the locks I have seen, the thick part of the key has no pins/cuts, and is used only for turning the plug, therefore it would not be a 12 pin lock, but only a 9 pin lock.
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Postby gang_wheell » 28 May 2006 10:47

But this secom have 12 pins
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