safe cracking?

[Chubby]

Solid steel body filled with aluminum & cobalt...I'm going to have start using a dictionary again Ho-Hum!
But your comments about "room" is actually on the right track Mad Mick.

[David_Parker]

Solid steel body filled with aluminum & cobalt...I'm going to have start using a dictionary again Ho-Hum!
But your comments about "room" is actually on the right track Mad Mick.

If you're quoting 'The Score', then leave it be. Why would aluminum be included in a safe? Its lightweight, not that strong, and easy to drill through. Plus, it heats up easily, causing friction, whereas Cobalt takes away heat from the drill bit, and without heat, theres no friction=no cutting=no drill bit going though. Just a Dewalt motor burned out.

Jewelers safes are high. UL's listing of safes usually goes as TXTL-15, 30, and 60.

No we're not talking about amatuers. These are UL guys who are given as much time as they need to to plan this out. They use explosives (TX), torches, cutting saws, drills; pretty much anything that cuts and grinds. Not only that, but they're GIVEN the blueprints to the safe. These things are solid casted, meaning that their aren't any seal marks for a casting, but made whole.

These f&%&ing things are enormous in size, weight, and durability. The only thing that seems to be able to open them is a thermic lance, but then again, I'm not a locksmith, I'm just an 18 year old kid who loves this sport.


-Dave.

[Chubby]

If you're quoting 'The Score', then leave it be.

I found it awe-inspiring!...

[marso]

If this was Safe-cracking101 it might be a different story. Want to know about lock picking?

[David_Parker]

No, you're right. The movie kicked serious ass. Robert DeNiro and Edward Norton are complete icons of some sort of 'ideal-professional' crime life that I think appeals to many, if not all of us.


-Dave.

[CitySpider]

No, you're right. The movie kicked serious ass. Robert DeNiro and Edward Norton are complete icons of some sort of 'ideal-professional' crime life that I think appeals to many, if not all of us.

I can give you a definite on the "not all."

[Mad Mick]

Same goes for me on the "not all"

Also, could you please leave profanity out of the posts. Don't get me wrong on this, I swear like a trooper at work and with my friends, but this is a respectable forum.

[benoit]

i have a safe in my rom that requires a combination and key to open it....

it took me about 5 minutes at my first attempt to open the ting without looking at the dial or using a key....

my tools, a stethoscope (doctor thing they listen to your heart beat) and a psx-16 lock pick set (i only used a tension wrench out of it and a hook pick)

now (cuase of practise) i can open the thing in bout 2 minutes

note: my safe is a high quality Secure Safe thats made of concrete and renenforced steel. no fake toy safes hear....

[CitySpider]

If you can pop a safe in two minutes, I don't know that I'd call it "high quality." Have a link or a picture?

Also, how exactly is it made of concrete? Not saying you're wrong, I don't know safes, I'm just curious.

[benoit]

its made of a concrete paste that goes onto the steel bars when being constructed and yes its high quality....

it has a 4/5 star rating on safety and durability (i.e water proof, fire resistant etc etc.)

the safe wasn't cheap either... i got it as a gift from i dont know where but i found that it was $250.

i know others cost up to double that but im porving mine isn't a toy.....

also sorry i dont have a photo or link that i know of but if u look it up it the brand is called Secure Safe. i dont know which modle but its one of the more modern ones..

[Chucklz]

Im trying not to laugh here. The "star" rating system for security is absolutely arbitrary, probably the manufactureres rating of their own products. UL ratings (or equivalent testing institute) are the ratings you should look for. For 250 US dollars, I couldnt even buy a used door for a decent safe, let alone the boltworks/lock. Hate to break it to you, but you really do have a safe of "toy" quality.

[benoit]

whatever u say.... but i think im the one laughing now...

for your information, its not the manufactures rating.... i did some research on my safe after getting it and i looked up security testing companys and government orginizations that test these safes, saftey deposit boxes and other security devices....

the highest rating was a 5/5 and the lowest was a 4/5.

the site showed videos and photos of the safe in its 30 trials of testing....
my safe withstanded a variety of things like eing shot by a 9mm and being scorched by flames..

so shut up and laugh in your head on how bad you messed up...

btw.... if you and your mush in your head still thinks its a toy, go get a safe yourself.

[CitySpider]

Your safe WITHSTOOD being shot by a 9mm and scorched by flames. So could my dutch oven.

What it didn't withstand, if we're to believe you, is five minutes of picking by an amateur with little or no experience.

That means -- now that you've personally attacked Chuck, I think I'm free to be blunt -- that either you're lying, or your safe sucks, or some combination of the two.

So where's this site, then?

[marso]

Benoit, I would not start insulting people on this forum. It is meant to be a respectable forum and taking jabs at each other is not the in thing.

I would suggest that the safe may be half decent in quality but what quality is the locking mechinism. There are so many safes out there and alot have a dial because it looks good.

It is very common for pin tumbler locks to say they have a 5 star rating (equivilent) and be simple to pick, because they are talking about someone forcing the lock.

Do you have a brand, model and links to where we can find the safe details?

I do know you are proud of your achievements, and congrats. However when you start saying "it is not a toy" you are painting a target on your back. Instead in the future I would say something like "btw it is a safe xyz model number bob" and then people can make their own judgments.

[benoit]

i swear to you that i can get the combo to my safe (by listening) and pick it in 2 minutes...

and when i got this safe i was 9 and i looked up the site when i was 9, i have no clue where this site is anymore! but be my guest looking for it.....

and i say this one last time. this safe is not a toy quality.

i have been picking for 2-3 years and i can open most doors in a matter of seconds but safes are much more difficult that is why it takes me 2 minutes...

im no expert, but i can probably pick a lock slightly faster than some of you, (based on what you've been saying)

thats all i have to say