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How do I work the Lock Aid Gun, Auto Push Button Gun...

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Postby Varjeal » 13 Oct 2003 22:26

As a recommendation I would say to practice manual picking first. After all, if your pick gun breaks, then what?

Practice, practice, practice, and if you have questions, don't hesitate to post here.
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Postby cred » 20 Aug 2004 12:51

i have a lock aid snap gun played around with it for a couple of hrs and hey presto opend all the locks i have got even yales with security pins in
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Postby Gaian » 14 Oct 2004 9:18

As far as "how to work the gun", adjuct tension wheel on gun to the mid point of its range, stick needle slightly below the bottom of the pins in the lock, such that it can drop down slighltly, then kick up into the pins, keep the needle as parallel as possible to the shearline.....


My problem with the pick gun is I can't figure out how to keep the needle as parallel as possible to the shearline.

It would be easier if the needle only moved up and down in a parallel fasion, but the thing pivot's on that top pin and the end of the needle near the body of the gun barely moves down, but the tip of the needle drops down an inch then goes back up.

At what point are you supposed to be parallel with the pins :?:
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BROCKHAGE Pick Gun

Postby coastguardleo » 15 May 2006 9:14

Hello To All
Just got my new pick gun two days ago. It's a Brockhage pick gun
im lost no idea how to use it any help? and how do you know when to put the tension whench into the lock?
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Postby Jason13 » 15 May 2006 9:42

Your supose to put tension wrenhc in the lock while picking the lock with the pickgun.

The pickgun is only a Bump method so it may on work on locks with little differnces in the bottom pins.

R70 uses high low high low so it will be hard to pick that with the pickgun if you get your hands on that.

manual picking is the only thing that can pick hard locks.

Or a very powerful electric pick.
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Postby Shrub » 15 May 2006 10:01

Jason is wrong,

Have a look around for the other threads on useing these guns, there are quite a few and some which have very good explanations on them.

Insert wrench, insert gun but not too far so it hits the back of the lock, start the gun at its lightest setting, pull the trigger as fast as you can whilst bouncing the tension on and off, dont use heavy tension, a light constant tension may also work well for you.

If it doesnt pop in 10ish pulls them wind the gun up a bit and try again.
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Postby Mutzy » 11 Sep 2006 23:24

i can't believe i have never thought of starting on one side of the tension scale.

I have been searching for info on the actual physics theory of pickguns. All I have found are articles on the history or brief explanations. As far as I know, it's a newton law thing, right?
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Postby darkk » 12 Sep 2006 0:23

Mutzy wrote:i can't believe i have never thought of starting on one side of the tension scale.

I have been searching for info on the actual physics theory of pickguns. All I have found are articles on the history or brief explanations. As far as I know, it's a newton law thing, right?


It exploits the same vulnerability as bump keys, the energy from the gun is transfered from the bottom pins then to the drivers causing them to all "jump" simultaneously and clear the shear line.
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Postby Mutzy » 12 Sep 2006 0:27

I mean something like this:
http://www.i-hacked.com/content/view/138/48

But with a bit more detail on the physics involved.
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Postby LockNewbie21 » 12 Sep 2006 11:14

Dang things sound like chainsaws


Try a vibrator.. i hate um.

I think Dr. Daves Idea rocks i never even knew this thread existed, i miss dr. dave guy had some great stuff to say.

Anyway best advise with a pickgun? don;t use it, three snaps to a standard lock with 5x jewlers eye peice will show a groove starting thats only three clicks.. manual only tends to scratch.. un less tools aren't finished.. so the burdon on a customers/ practice lock will not take a beating and im opinion.. more reliable.

Not saying there's some people that can own all with these guns.. i can't :P Just really never got into it.

But Dave if you come back.. thanks for the idea mate :P
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Postby lockedin » 12 Sep 2006 16:58

Bouncing the tension wrench made all the difference for me. I find that pick guns work the best on low quality locks (i.e. Kwiksets). I haven't been able to open locks full of security pins (i.e. Brinks Shrouded Padlock) with it. They can be very effective. When I was just beginning and was not the best lock picker my pick gun seemed almost miraculous :D, but you later learn they are not the answer to everything. To this day I prefer my manual pick gun over my electric because I feel like I have more control over it.
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