American 1105 lock help

by **monsterlocker** » 3 Jun 2007 15:05

i am going to pay to get my lock open anyway. the only reason i bought my kind of lock again is cuz it was cheap.....anyway, i might b able to get a pick set but if i dont i think i'd like to bump it..
is it possible with this key though?

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p223 ... k/key1.jpg

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p223 ... k/lock.jpg

by **Afisch** » 3 Jun 2007 16:01

If you have the key for the lock and the lock has pins, then you can make a bump key for it. File all of the trenches down to the "9" position.

by **monsterlocker** » 3 Jun 2007 16:28

whats the "9" position. can you draw it on that pic of the key? so then i know where i should file. cuz i dont know what part the pins touch

by **bumpit** » 3 Jun 2007 19:05

Dude, to be truthful if you had 20 of those keys I doubt you could make a working bump key. I just don't think you could do it from reading your posts. Plus it is a lot harder to bump a 1105 because it has spools and serrated pins. Just give up, get skilled in basic lockpicking then go back to learning how to pick the 1105 or getting a code cut bump key when you have the skills.

by **monsterlocker** » 3 Jun 2007 19:10

well i wanted to learn how to bump cuz i cant get my hands on a lock pick set.......and since i dont have spare keys to my house i thought i could bump this lock i just bought....cant u just tell me how and i can try it?

by **mercurial** » 3 Jun 2007 20:29

monsterlocker wrote:well i wanted to learn how to bump cuz i cant get my hands on a lock pick set.......and since i dont have spare keys to my house i thought i could bump this lock i just bought....cant u just tell me how and i can try it?

Even if you did have spare keys to your house, DO NOT attempt to bump (or pick for that matter) a lock that is in use. You can easily cause damage, especially if inexperienced. This is why we use practice locks. One example - explaining why the front door lock is broken to your parents/landlord is a situation best avoided. Even worse, you might damage the lock in a way that is not immediately obvious, and end up locked behind a door in an emergency (eg fire).

I doubt you will get a lot more help in this thread, but if you do a little searching, here or elsewhere on the net, you should be able to figure out how a bump key for any standard pin tumbler lock is made and how it works. People will not spoonfeed here, especially when it comes to bum(p)ing.

Hope you decide to stick around and learn to pick as a hobby, if you can't buy picks, there is plenty of information here that will teach you how to make them. If you do stick around - read the stickies and the rules, because posts about picking locks that aren't yours, or locks that are in use, will not go down well here.

...mercurial

by **monsterlocker** » 3 Jun 2007 22:07

no dude, i bought this american lock to practice on it was 5 bucks i dont care what happens to it. i just wann learn just like a hobby and stuff.

by **freakparade3** » 3 Jun 2007 22:30

monsterlocker wrote:whats the "9" position. can you draw it on that pic of the key? so then i know where i should file. cuz i dont know what part the pins touch

The 9 position refers to the deepest cut for most locks. American only uses 8 depths according to my books. If you file all the cuts on your key until you get a micrometer reading of .175 you will have your bumpkey.

by **mrdan** » 3 Jun 2007 22:59

I bet he doesn't have a micrometer being a student. Just a guess. :roll:

Also, be carefull with the angles so you don't get your homemade bump key stuck in the lock.

by **freakparade3** » 3 Jun 2007 23:08

mrdan wrote:I bet he doesn't have a micrometer being a student. Just a guess.

Also, be carefull with the angles so you don't get your homemade bump key stuck in the lock.

I understand he probably does not have a micrometer. I gave him the information he needed. What he chooses to do with it is up to him. My bet is if he wants to make an accurate key he will find a micrometer.

by **mrdan** » 3 Jun 2007 23:12

Yah, maybe the scool has one he could borrow. (If high school, maybe Auto shop? ) :wink:

by **mrdan** » 3 Jun 2007 23:12

DANG!!! School, not SCOOL! :oops:

by **monsterlocker** » 4 Jun 2007 0:18

lol, micrometer??! ur right, i dont have one. i just kinda need someboyd to draw some lines on my pic of my key and show me whwere i need to file. b/c i do not know where each pin goes, so i dont know how to file the teeth

by **mrdan** » 4 Jun 2007 0:38

That would be cool if you could eyeball a key by looking at a picture of the original and get the depths right.

I would say find the key with the deepest cut the file all to match the deepest cut.

by **monsterlocker** » 4 Jun 2007 9:00

thats too bad,
how come theres so many vids of people who just start randomly filing
and then woo they have a bump key?

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