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Postby Kaotik » 17 Aug 2007 11:59

SnowyBoy wrote:Anyway, I was going to ask you about this DIY milling machine, got any pics of it at all?


I do, but what I was working on when I had taken the photo's is propably to advanced for the open forum. I will have to set it up and take more photo's later on.
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Postby SnowyBoy » 17 Aug 2007 14:08

Ahhhh right, Top secret and all that ;)

Well when you get round to taking some, stick 'em up :)

P.s Peaky, that's a blinding idea :) Diddn't think of that myself :oops:
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Postby LockNewbie21 » 18 Aug 2007 18:58

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No Milling machine mate, just a dremel, good measurements and a steady hand. :wink:
[deadlink]http://i60.photobucket.com/albums/h17/Locknewbie21/LockNewbie21Sig.jpg[/img]
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Postby Kaotik » 18 Aug 2007 22:36

Ah! But it's so much faster, and you get the same results. :P

Just picking on you LN21. :wink:
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Postby lockpick1968 » 19 Aug 2007 0:45

:?: Top Secret eh?
Hmmm, very much possible, you have to be careful in here how you show or word certain things! 8)
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Postby Charlie511 » 21 Aug 2007 9:15

to LockNewbie21: very nice work

so, thats my first, im not very satisfied, i hope that my second will be better :P

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Postby SnowyBoy » 21 Aug 2007 9:50

LMFAO comparing mine to all of yours makes it look even more pathetic than it already does!

But like i said, i wanted to test my new picks out and to train myself to lift the back pin higher than i actually do. That's about all its good for though.
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

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Postby samfishers » 30 Aug 2007 20:05

sorry, but i really don't get it. How do you do it?

Why the pins are not popping out in your eyes?

anyone would be likely to post videos or photo on how to do it?
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Postby Kaotik » 31 Aug 2007 0:06

samfishers wrote:sorry, but i really don't get it. How do you do it?

Why the pins are not popping out in your eyes?

anyone would be likely to post videos or photo on how to do it?


First you would need to know how the lock is assembled and where the internal part are located to account for the position in which to place the cuts/openings. A quick search on cut-away(s) will probably answer any future questions, this thread being in the top 5.

The openings are narrower than the pins and springs so they will not protrude the chamber there in, therefore enabling you to have a working visual aide of the lock.

All locks are different in one form or another, you would need to be more specific for what type of lock this is being done to, but chances are most of the locks have already been done so researching will be your best choice for what type of locks you have and may give you an insight on how it was done and what with.
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Postby 5thcorps » 31 Aug 2007 12:12

Whenever my digital camera comes in I'll post some picks of the cutaways I've made. Dremel and various sized cutting wheels, and oh yeah, safety glasses
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Postby samfishers » 31 Aug 2007 15:47

hey guys i tried to start doing a cut-away, but i cant even get the plug out of the brass. im trying a best A927.

take a look and tell me what went wrong!:

the lock:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238 ... G_0394.jpg
the inside:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238 ... G_0398.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238 ... G_0399.jpg
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238 ... G_0391.jpg
as you can see there is no screw or things to make it pop out:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238 ... G_0393.jpg
and look at the weird things that came out as i disambled it:
http://i153.photobucket.com/albums/s238 ... G_0396.jpg

thanks
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Postby criminalhate » 1 Sep 2007 16:25

I'm not positive about your lock in question but on my Best Locks you need a specific key to remove the cylinder
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Postby samfishers » 1 Sep 2007 17:09

RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH *********.


what kind of specific key? where do you place it?

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Postby samfishers » 1 Sep 2007 17:11

hey, just to specify, im not saying this to you criminalhate, I was talking to my lock :oops:

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Postby mercurial » 1 Sep 2007 21:25

samfishers wrote:RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH *********.


what kind of specific key? where do you place it?


Have a search here, focuissing on the keyword "SFIC" (stands for small format interchangable core).

The 'specific key' key which removes the core is placed in the same place as you place the operating key (ie they keyway). It is commonly referred to as the control key. The control key looks just like an operating key, but is cut to a different bitting.

These locks have two shear-lines.

One is called the operating shear-line, and it functions just like the shear line in a normal pin-tumbler lock and simply allows you to open and close the lock.

The other shear-line is achieved by having extra pins in each chamber, and a sleeve around the plug. When the correct control key is inserted, it will align the pins such that a shear line is created which allows the sleeve to turn, which in moves a lug which is retaining the core.

There are special tension wrenches which allow you to place tension on the sleeve itself, thus allowing you to pick the control shear line. Otherwise, picking these locks can be a hit-and-miss affair - when you set a pin, you can't really tell if you have set it to the operating or the control shear line. Unless all pins are set to the operating shear line, or all to the control shear line, the lock won't budge.

There's plenty more information and probably clearer explanations of this if you just search for "BEST" and "SFIC"

Hope that helps,

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