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Smart Key-Kwikset version

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Postby Gordon Airporte » 29 Aug 2007 19:40

MacGyver101 wrote:You can browse the patent most easily from the Google Patent Search (enter "7234331" in the search box). Two of the less-important figures (Fig. 8 and 25) appeared to be partially missing from Google's copy; if you wish to wait for the download, a complete version can be obtained from one of the other patent download sites (e.g., Pat2PDF.org).


Wow, thanks - that's really useful. I've been thinking about standardizing terminology for some of the parts and now they all have official names.

Also: I have a little spring left over after putting my lock back together and now I know where it's supposed to go :-D.
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Postby MacGyver101 » 29 Aug 2007 19:52

I was a little surprised at how long it took to find that one... but was similarly hopeful that, once I bought and disassembled one, it would help me get all of the pieces back in their proper locations. ;-)
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Postby 5thcorps » 30 Aug 2007 11:44

This lock looks way too delicate for me to try and pick. I don't want to ruin it. They could have made them a bit better durability wise. Picking gets rough on some occasions and I don't think this lock can handle much.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 30 Aug 2007 11:51

It's not too delicate. One of us here (might have been zeke) tried a few times with a blank key to force the lock to turn but the lock stayed intact and the keys just broke.
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Postby 5thcorps » 30 Aug 2007 12:04

Great. I didn't want to start picking it and end up flushing my money down the toilet. I'll start on it in a couple weeks or so. My friend bought a bunch of deadbolts (used) at a warehouse sale (about 140) without keys and I've been spending about half an hour a day picking them so they can be disassembled and rekeyed. A contractor has offered some good money for them once they all have keys and are working to be used in low income housing. Most have only taken no more than a coupel minutes to pick, been averaging about 10-20 every half hour session.
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Postby Eyes_Only » 30 Aug 2007 13:55

Until a solid pick or bypass method can be figured out for this lock I might just get myself a set of rocker picks by Majectic. I don't know if these locks sell well in my area but if I even run into them when on a lockout call I want to me prepared to some degree.
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Re: Smart Key-Kwikset version

Postby digital_blue » 30 Aug 2007 15:06

Lauren wrote:(Kwikset owns Weiser to my belief)


Close. Both Kwikset and Weiser are products manufactured by Black & Decker.

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Postby blake1803 » 30 Aug 2007 16:49

Eyes_Only wrote:Until a solid pick or bypass method can be figured out for this lock I might just get myself a set of rocker picks by Majectic. I don't know if these locks sell well in my area but if I even run into them when on a lockout call I want to me prepared to some degree.


A word of warning about those Majestic picks -- they're not exactly rockers. It's best to use a tension wrench and be very gentle with them. They are very delicate spring steel and if the SmartKey is as "tight" as people have been saying, that's a broken pick just waiting to happen, I'd guess. (A Majestic High Tech pick is literally the only pick I've ever broken... although maybe that was a fluke).

I've always wanted to give those HPC Computer Generated picks a try but they seem more limited in their application. I wish someone would manufacture a thicker, stainless steel version of the Majestic picks.
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smartkey-decode method

Postby Lauren » 2 Sep 2007 2:28

I've been giving it alot of thought about a possible method of decoding the smartkey lock, and here's what I think will work:

When a key blank is inserted into the lock, at 90 degrees to each pin is a small window, giving a unique finger print of the position of the adjustable blades within the lock relative to each pin. If someone could make an impression of the edge of the blades, perhaps by melting rubber or some other flexable material, then one would have a basis for decoding the lock under known depth cuts for each finger print. Obviously, the challenge is coming up with a method to read or record the finger print of each blade attached to each pin and do it quickly. The other problem is that the window is as thin as the adjustable blades themselves. I never thought this method would by timely. But the real challenge is coming up with a quick decoding tool. Nevertheless, I know one thing for sure, it is possible to decode this lock through the keyway.
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