tubular lock

[Johnny P]

The only way your picks will work is if you remove the notch from the centre of your pick, and silver solder a precise kind of fin on the top/end of your pic in which to index the lock when turned. The idea is you cant get the pick back out till its back at 12:00. Ive been meaning to try it but i'm waiting till i get some cheaper southords, i dont wanna damage my hpcs.

You have it wrong - completely! Remove that metal "notch" from the center of your pick and you will ruin it. What you are referring to as the notch is the rib which forms the internal portion of the "key" or pick. This rib is what moves the rotating sleeve. Cut this off and that lock won't be turning in any direction ever.

You don't want the "flag" as when you pick a turbular lock you want to be able to remove the pick at a spot about 20 degrees into picking to "read" the cuts. The reason the flag is there on the finished key is to keep end users from removing the key until it is returned to the locked position.

[MacGyver101]

This rib is what moves the rotating sleeve.

Urm... not on the locks that are pictured in the image he posted? (You're quite right, though, in the case of most "regular" tubular locks.)

[glamour]

Cheers MacGyver101!

So sorry mate, you have it completely wrong. You should've actually looked at the lock instead of wanting to rip me to bits straight away.

Glamour

[glamour]

Just to make it clear "johnny p"

Normal cheap sort left, expensive right


When unlocked and key removed


Difference in keys, cheap left.. expensive right

[zeke79]

This looks to me like a good candidate for a pick like the CSP. It does NOT use a nub to apply tension. The sleeve the feeler picks ride on is able to be adjusted tigher around the center post to apply tension. This along with the pins sitting in the grooves for the feelers is what allows you to pick and turn the lock.

I have one csp pick and it is the best pick I have ever used. I like it way better than even the peterson pro 1 I had a while back. I do not think the csp pick is produced anymore however. It is a very good pick though. It even allows you to take a key that has had the tension nub broke off and combinate the feelers to the key and open the lock. A real nice piece of engineering.

[glamour]

you got a pic of it mate?

[glamour]

the centre piece doesn't actually turn though, once the key/pick is put in and turned all the top pins move around in a circle with the key. It's hard to explain really.

[Johnny P]

You're correct. I didn't look closely enough at the picture.

For that lock, just buy a BIC pen or use a tube from a roll of toilet paper ala Barry Wels.

I certainly wouldn't ruin a good HPC pick to pick that lock.

[MacGyver101]

For that lock, just buy a BIC pen or use a tube from a roll of toilet paper ala Barry Wels.

If I recall correctly, that model ships with some reasonable security pins?

[Picklocking]

Can you spp all these right? I made a tensionwrench shaped like this:

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I succesfully picked my old bikelock with it. I dont know the type since I just got familiar with these? Just as an ot question

[Picklocking]

Oh it didnt come out the way I made it, let me trye again:
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[glamour]

I need one to use all the time though, so i'm just gonna get a cheap set of southords for it. I saw the same thing today but a 10 pin, it was massive! Bigger than a 32mm socket, it worked the same way but the centre didn't pop out when unlocked.

[lockpick1968]

Glamour,
they are using alot more of the 8, 9, and 10 pins here as well, they are freaking monsterous to some on the 10 pin.