Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

Shaking Your Locks

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Postby unbreakable » 24 Oct 2007 18:40

SHAKE LOCKS NOT BABIES!

haha, couldnt resist.

I can honestly say Ive never done this, mainly because I never thought of it. :P
Image
unbreakable
 
Posts: 1682
Joined: 28 Oct 2005 18:55
Location: Nova Scotia, Canada

Postby Legion303 » 26 Oct 2007 4:43

Like most of the others here, I'm in the "I used to, but not anymore" camp.

-steve
User avatar
Legion303
 
Posts: 2343
Joined: 6 May 2006 6:52
Location: Denver, CO

Postby Afisch » 26 Oct 2007 4:58

Its one of those things that i only do if the lock isn't opening when i'd expect it to, wouldn't class it as an aid to picking.
Afisch
 
Posts: 461
Joined: 18 Apr 2007 8:12
Location: Devon, England

Postby xayandevorak » 26 Oct 2007 10:47

I've never thought of this, but I see how door locks wont work, as well as padlock affixed to a hole/locker/wall somewhere.
xayandevorak
 
Posts: 45
Joined: 9 Sep 2006 19:35

Postby fuzz » 27 Oct 2007 20:01

never tried it, doubt i will either. . .
Image
fuzz
 
Posts: 43
Joined: 7 Sep 2007 10:11
Location: Wirral, UK

Postby sk337 » 31 Oct 2007 9:21

I used to do this, but recently I've started mounting my locks when I pick. I've found that having them mounted rather than in hand helps me when I'm actually working on a door, plus it seems like most competitons have them mounted too (though those are a loooong way off).
sk337
 
Posts: 12
Joined: 25 Jan 2007 18:02
Location: Illinois, US

Postby ObiWonShinobi » 1 Nov 2007 1:34

unbreakable wrote:SHAKE LOCKS NOT BABIES!

haha, couldnt resist.

I can honestly say Ive never done this, mainly because I never thought of it. :P


You NEVER thought of shaking babies?
Well, it IS illegal... and I imagine the drool would fly everywhere...
MESSY!

but seriously... yeah its harder with mounted locks.
('cept maybe with a bump hammer?)

but at times when gunk has clogged the lock, the springs are
not quite strong enough on their own....
and bashing them a little releases tension so you can relax and pick.
(yell like a caveman when you do it for extra effect.)
Image
ObiWonShinobi
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 187
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 4:33

Postby ady1989 » 1 Nov 2007 5:02

I used to shake my locks a lot. I later learned to tell how much I have picked and how much I have to go by pushing on the pins with a hook pick. If it moves freely it's probably set. If there's spring resistance or it got stuck somehow, it's time to either reset all pins and start over or loosen tension until the problem is solved. Try and practice feeling each individual pin with a pick in order to determine it's condition.
ady1989
 
Posts: 96
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 1:41

Postby Jaakko » 1 Nov 2007 5:40

ady1989 wrote:If there's spring resistance or it got stuck somehow, it's time to either reset all pins and start over or loosen tension until the problem is solved.

You really should read thhe Locksport International guide about lockpicking to get you a basic knowledge.

If a pin feels springy, the it is not set and not binding. You always must search for the binding pin, i.e. the pin that feels a little bit jammed and push on it until it sets. Then you start looking for the next binding pin.
Image
Jaakko
 
Posts: 1967
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 4:23
Location: Finland (Pirkkala)

Postby ady1989 » 1 Nov 2007 13:53

I really should brush up on my terminology. I had the right idea but being tired at 5 am I didn't word it well. My bad. I can SPP well, I'd say I got out of the noob stage and into the amateur. When I said the pin being stuck, I meant stuck stuck, like in the case of an old and worn lock (I have quite a few of those around), not binding. Come to think of it, why the heck did I mention resetting the pins if there is spring resistance... Again sorry, I was tired.
ady1989
 
Posts: 96
Joined: 21 Oct 2005 1:41

Postby Wrenchman » 1 Nov 2007 15:50

I've never done it as a part of a Lockpicking process! But I have done it
just for the fun of it, you know, as a newbie trying to discover! You can
also hear if there's a broken spring in an open lock(unmounted) but that
is also it, it is not something that can help you pick a lock, IMO!

Wait, I'm having a flashback, I do have a vague remembrance of shaking
a padlock in the act of picking, yes, now I remember, I used to do it all the time! :roll:

:D

Wrenchman
Before you pick a lock:
The first thing that you should do is check to make sure that
the lock is your's and secondly make sure its not in use.
Wrenchman
 
Posts: 588
Joined: 11 Sep 2005 19:04
Location: Brazil

Postby FFVison » 1 Nov 2007 16:24

Can't say I have ever tried this, and I can't say that I would find it all that reliable anyway. If you shake a lock and you hear rattling of the key pins, it could just mean that there's a false set. Basically the only thing that shaking a lock will tell you is that, if you don't hear anything, the pins are either all down in the plug OR they are overset. If you hear rattling, it MIGHT be a set pin, or it could be a false set, or it could be a keypin that's binding and being held at the shearline by (probably too much) tension. I'm not ripping on anyone's technique, I'm just saying that I don't see the use in it.
FFVison
 
Posts: 161
Joined: 8 Aug 2007 6:53
Location: Cleveland, OH, USA

Postby Jaakko » 1 Nov 2007 17:27

ady1989 wrote:Again sorry, I was tired.

No worries, I just wanted to get it right as some beginner(s) might read that and think "oh well, lets reset and start over" :D
Image
Jaakko
 
Posts: 1967
Joined: 19 Feb 2006 4:23
Location: Finland (Pirkkala)

Postby ObiWonShinobi » 5 Nov 2007 7:20

FFVison wrote:Can't say I have ever tried this, and I can't say that I would find it all that reliable anyway. If you shake a lock and you hear rattling of the key pins, it could just mean that there's a false set. Basically the only thing that shaking a lock will tell you is that, if you don't hear anything, the pins are either all down in the plug OR they are overset. If you hear rattling, it MIGHT be a set pin, or it could be a false set, or it could be a keypin that's binding and being held at the shearline by (probably too much) tension. I'm not ripping on anyone's technique, I'm just saying that I don't see the use in it.


Never done it to listen for a set, I dont trust it to be loud enough anyway.
I do it when its overset and gunked up and the springs are not strong enough
to push the pins back out because of the gunk.....

If that is the case...a key wont work either...
pushing a key in puts all the pins up to the highest point that the key
can touch..... and then they dont fall back down.

Not saying it makes picking faster...... but it is NESSESARY sometimes
but just SOMETIMES... not all the time.
Otherwise you gotta wait 2-3 weeks for a breeze to reset it,
or an earthquake.....

or the sun AND moon in perfect alignment on the OTHER SIDE of the planet
to add enough gravity to pull them back down.
Image
ObiWonShinobi
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 187
Joined: 23 Mar 2007 4:33

Postby Schuyler » 5 Nov 2007 9:49

As Rai pointed out - just cause you can hear them shaking doesn't mean anything is actually set.

Be careful with it.

I do occasionally do this myself and have showed it to other people. It's an encouraging sound for a newbie picker, makes you feel good to think you've got something going on in the lock, but of course, your fooling yourself as often as not.
Schuyler
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 3448
Joined: 24 Jul 2006 1:42
Location: Boston

PreviousNext

Return to Pick-Fu [Intermediate Skill Level]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 9 guests