spp and raking

[XOR]

I think the important thing to see here, is the fact that tension is brought up over and over again. I personally believe that you could have the best pick manipulation skills and still never pick the lock because you're misjudging the amount of tension you're using.

I have, for the most part, come to pick American 5200s pretty consistantly, but there are still the onesies and twosies out there that i'll still come across that I can't pick. And after reviewing why i couldn't pick them, it comes down to tension. Always too much tension.

Regardless if you SPP or Rake a lock, if you can't control your tension, your efforts aren't going to get you anywhere.

Couldn't agree more. I almost always have more problems by using too much tension than too little.

Light tension is the key to success whether you are doing SPP or raking. Also play around with tension at the top and bottom of the key lock. If you have a double tension wrench (Falle style or similar) then try that out. The even tension of top/bottom on the cylinder can really open up some locks quickly.

I read somewhere once that: "The tension wrench is what picks the lock." It's really an important tip that will lead to great success in lock picking.

[Dooms_day]

i can rake some locks sometimes, but not all the time, i may just be picking locks with security pins, but i keep noticing i get a bunch of pins set, and then the last one or two wont go up, and the lock doesnt open within like 4 minutes, so i release the tension and hear the pins pop down, and i try again but the same thing happens...i dont think i am applying too much tension because if i apply any less no pins set

[Deadlatch]

Dooms_day

Thats definately a feature of security pins. They used to bother me all the time.

My teacher was one of the best, and always told me to watch out for those things.

When you are single pinning it, you can get a lot better idea of where the spools and what not are than any raking. You know what to avoid, and where to go after that.

[StabbyJoe]

I have done my research on raking techniques etc. and I can't make it work for me either. All I've tried is my home-made bogota ripoff (which I hate by the way) and I may have just made it in a way that won't really work well as a rake or something... or it could be me that's the problem.
I can sometimes set a couple of pins in my lock, but then I bet I could get at least a couple set by putting on heavy tension and ramming anything in there, lol.

[Archive555]

Now I've only picked a few locks (5 or 6), all of which I did with SPP, but yesterday, for the first time, I tried raking (Mainly because I just bought an
L Rake ), and I can rake ONE of those 5 or 6 locks. That one I can rake, I can do very easily, however, the other-ones just don't seem to like being raked. Ahh well.

[raimundo]

I find that light intermittent tension and a well sanded rake can work well.
all the rakes I have are bogotas.

[ford01explorer]

Which rake picks work the best for you guys and does raking work for security pins or not? Ive only been lockpicking for a few months but i only spp, i guess mainly cause i dont know too much about raking.

[raven252000]

i use a bogota rake i made from raimundo's guide. the action seems perfect for fast picking.

[Archive555]

I use a standard long rake from Southord, as well as an 'S' rake for padlocks

[gstrendkill]

i've become somewhat of a southord long rake fan lately

[wolfie]

i've been practicing both raking and SPP, so far from what i've noticed in the short time i've been fiddling about is that some locks are best done SPP and others can be picked almost at will with either method.

[Exhalent]

Is it a problem that the first thing I do with my MPXS-14 and a 4-pin master lock is rake it? I like single pin picking and all, but raking seems nice. I have yet to SPP this lock,considering that it is my first picked lock.

[Archive555]

It's not at all a problem, if that's what you prefer, do it.
If you can SPP, then all the better.

It all depends on what you prefer, although from my experience, I have to say that SPP is more fall-back-on-able, whereas raking will open a lot of locks quickly, SPP will open virtually every lock in a little longer.

I am more satisfied with SPP, but that's just me.

-Archive

[BraveHeart.]

sorry a little off topic but what is SPP??

[freakparade3]

sorry a little off topic but what is SPP??

Single Pin Picking. It's manipulating each pin individually instead of raking them all at once.