BiLock, easier than Medeco...

[globallockytoo]

/me puts his Bilock back up on the shelf and goes to find a nice corner to cry in

Pfft! Come on...you can still do it!

Perhaps I should build you a cylinder without a key.....you pick it....dismantle it to display the inners all in one uncut video?

I wont make it too difficult for you.....but not easy.

Then you can show us all your technique....and perhaps restore some of your "lost" credibility!

[zeke79]

Time has a wonderful way of weeding out the trivial .

[LockNewbie21]

Heh I'll settle this now.

I have open, been opening and continue to open medeco's. There not hard, and I even piss off a few people when there locked out and I open it for them.

Globallocky made me a bilock, I had full view of the keys, and two in possesion.

I opened the lock once with insterting two SO sawtooth rakes and ALOT of luck. To say the least it never happend again.



Manipulation wise- Bilock
Accessabiltiy- Medeco (simply more dealers int he US)
Build quality- I will say Billock, but medeco is not horrible.
Key Dup. control- Bilock, other than cutting a floppy disc cover to dup. a key.. good luck.

Overall- Bilock would be a great alternative it was as big in the states as it is AssyLand, Medeco just more presence.


Anyone want to prove me wrong, I'm with Global and Zeke, go ahead and post a legit vid.

LN21

[globallockytoo]

'cept you sold it...right?

[LockNewbie21]

Thats actually why I bailed on the forum for a while, that lock and all my locks i sold becuase of persoanly issue at the time.

I am now getting back into the swing, maybe make a pick or two.

So, it was not sold out of disrespect, I was just in a bind.

[Mutzy]

Hope everything's working out alright for you though. (Y)

I keyed up a bilock cylinder the other day, wrote down the code to cut the key later. I used all single-cut pins (i.e. no masters), 3 pins of each depth in the cylinder (works out well ) so I have every belief that it would be very hard, but i'm confident and am gonna give it a go. Either i pick it, and be happy, or I keep it in my collection till I'm bored on a saturday afternoon.

[globallockytoo]

Hope everything's working out alright for you though. (Y)

I keyed up a bilock cylinder the other day, wrote down the code to cut the key later. I used all single-cut pins (i.e. no masters), 3 pins of each depth in the cylinder (works out well ) so I have every belief that it would be very hard, but i'm confident and am gonna give it a go. Either i pick it, and be happy, or I keep it in my collection till I'm bored on a saturday afternoon.

3 pins of each depth in the core would be 16 pins....there are only 12 in a Bilock core. And if you have not cut a key, how did you insert the core into the housing?

Unless you are using a first gen camlock.

[globallockytoo]

oops....calculated wrong....you are right.....3x1 + 3x2+3x3+3x4= 12 pins.

Sorry.

But how did you insert it in the housing?

[Mutzy]

Haven't yet. Gonna try to 'pick' it by pushing the sidebars in, then insert into the housing, but it's harder than it seems. False gates + strong new pin springs make it hard to do.

May just cut the key on a QC blank. Simpler that way.

And meh about the 12/16 thing. Didn't really register much. I didn't want to make it easy for me, cause I'm fully aware of how much easier any master pinned locks are but i fear i'm saying too much so i think i'll leave it there.

[Dak]

it has the be asked. does the guy filming have any piercings? i ask because he is quite to hairy fellow