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How I impression an American 5200 Lock -Pictures

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Re: How I impression an American 5200 Lock -Pictures

Postby ARF-GEF » 26 Jun 2013 13:10

Ok I got the basic picture about the KJS sicne then. :)
New question: isn1T teh pin spacing different in every lock? You need to ahve one special cylinder for every pin spacing possible. Don't you? :?
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Re: How I impression an American 5200 Lock -Pictures

Postby GWiens2001 » 26 Jun 2013 16:41

Yes an no. Some locks use the same pin spacings, some do not. It would require a lot of plugs to cover all the keyways and spacings, unless you had a straight broach on a plug (rectangular cut, no warding). I do not do competitive impressioning, so I don't know if such things are available or if they would even work.

Do the competitors know what kind of locks try will be impressioning beforehand? If so, you would be ready, with the needed keyway and spacing.

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Re: How I impression an American 5200 Lock -Pictures

Postby YouLuckyFox » 30 Jun 2013 23:02

Yes, the competitors, at least of the competition Jos Weyers is in, know what lock is to be used before hand and the KJS has been allowed into the competitions (to my feeble understanding). For non competition purposes I don't see more than 3 keyways I've ever had to impression: KW1 WR3 and SC1. For this harvesting 3 plugs would be worth the sacrifice. Yes, for anything else that comes along, I would use the HVAC technique to get the pin spacing and then remove material to lowest depth to make an auto-foil option for that keyway. That way I slowly build a repository of efficient opening techniques for all keyways I run into without wasting a plug on a keyway I won't run into often. Also, I note that a well made autofoil key may give the correct spacing for a manual impressioning effort if one wants to make initial filings that way! I kind of solve problems as they come along, I just buy and make tools as I need them and hope that one day I will have an encyclopedic, precise lock opening inventory for just about anything I can run into (just thought about what that day would look like :shock: ).

EDIT: I imagine that Europe is a different ball park, I've seen that each country can have a different variety of keyways, this could mean a lot of keyways! Is this true AG?
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