Blindfolded Lock picking

[UWSDWF]

A glass relocking device, interesting, I agree with Romstar about the durability. I wonder if after the glass is broken and the glass fragments removed could the lock be bumped at that time. The driver pin may simply fall into the keyway leaving one less pin to secure the cylinder or it may allow another try with a bump key.

well it would depent which stack it were sitting in... Ie in the middle of a 5 pin lock.... try sticking your bumpkey in that!

[maxxed]

It may be possible to lift all the pins with a pick and then reinsert the bump key beneath it. Most top pins in a standard cylinder are aprox. .180 - .210 and the average cylinder will accomodate a .300 bottom pin so for this idea to work there would have to be some other mods done to the cylinder

[UWSDWF]

like if it had a sfic sleeve for that driver pin to fall in....

so recently I had the pleasure of comming across a U-Change lock.... thoes of you familar with it know about it thoes who aren't well ask and if i find a site to explain I'll link it...
so its' pin stack looks like this


unfortunatly no key for it so I cant try myself but what do you think about it for being bump free?

[d_goldsmith]

I'm not familiar with it, but I'll look it up.

The glass pins got me thinking that different materials will react differently to force and dispersing force. Maybe a different metal for the pins, or a polymer?

P.S. Bud Wiser gave me an awesome idea, and I will soon have a video of me picking a lock while skydiving on my back

Just in case this seems unsafe or stupid to anyone, I'll clarify that I'm a licensed skydiver and I will have about 45 seconds to pop the lock, if I start running out of altitute I will give up obviously and try again on another jump.

[grim]

It appears that one of the most important things in lockpicking is sensitivity and touch as well as visualizing the inner working of the lock as you are picking it.

speaking for myself, i would have to give that a hearty, "yep."

It would be interesting to see some feedback from those of you who are proficient in lockpicking on your experience picking a lock while blindfolded.

i often close my eyes while picking. i don't really do it to focus concentration so much as block out distractions. (if that doesn't make sense, then think of addition by subtracting a negative number).

sometimes, my customers think i'm trying to be a showoff by closing my eyes when i'm picking a lock, but it just helps me get into a better picking mindset.

speaking of showing off...

(OFF TOPIC ALERT)

on a side note, i was having trouble with a lockbox one day and the customer (a lady) teasingly said, "james bond never has this much trouble picking a lock."

i stopped working on the lock and set my tools down. i looked up at her with an "oh really" look on my face and said, "and i don't have a film editor."

when she got done laughing, she said, "ok, ok. so he has help and you don't. you made your point."

just a few seconds later i had the lockbox opened and she was happily forking over the cash.

[grim]

I am going to see if my old chemistry skills will let me make anything to test this theory.

Gel in a bag. This should be fun.

my woman is a chemistry professor. lemme know if you need any info or help in your "gel-quest".

[Romstar]

I am going to see if my old chemistry skills will let me make anything to test this theory.

Gel in a bag. This should be fun.

my woman is a chemistry professor. lemme know if you need any info or help in your "gel-quest".

I'm willing to take any thoughts she may have on the matter. Right now I am kinda stuck using what I have available to me in the average hardware and grocery store. Improvised chemistry.

This is the kinda thing that gets you homemade RDX crystals and unstable Semtex.

At least I'm not dealing with out and out explosives in this case.

So far I have tried a few mixes that don't want to conform to my ideas.

The outer "skin" needs to be highly resilient at -40 to +60 celcius while resisting breaking, and permanent deformation. It can't be susceptable to fire or indirect heat.

Basically if I mould it into a cylinder shape, it has to retain that shape for a very long period of time (years) and still be able to compress and uncompress like a spring.

Just tell her flubber, and she should get a giggle out of it. Although in this case, it doesn't have to fly.

Any thoughts she can contribute will help, and if all else fails, I will go and buy some actual "real" chemicals at my local supplier since I really don't think household chemicals are going to cut it in this case. I've been meaning to go restock for a long time anyway.

Thanks,
Romstar

[Stray]

I will go and buy some actual "real" chemicals at my local supplier since I really don't think household chemicals are going to cut it in this case. I've been meaning to go restock for a long time anyway.

*touches finger to side of nose*

"A weapon of mass instruction"

[ldnlksmth]

when I was in high school, my teacher made us make what he called 'flubber'. I don't remember the ratios, but it was Borax in water supersaturated, then squeeze in carpenters glue. I'll be honest that that was a few years ago. It was a gel when it came out. I don't remember the eventual result. I seem to recall throwing at a lot of things and getting in trouble. Perhaps if I'd taken better care of it, things would go differently now.

[d_goldsmith]

That's homeade Gak

I doubt it has the properties he's looking for

[Romstar]

Its fun stuff, but it isn't quite what I was thinking of.

Romstar

[xxgonzoxx]

Romstar, get a breast implant and try that. Seems it would have the properties you would want.

[Romstar]

Romstar, get a breast implant and try that. Seems it would have the properties you would want.

Not quite actually. The "skin" for a breast implant won't scale that small. I never considered it before because quite frankly I've never seen or felt an implant.

I sure as the devil don't need 'em. My ex wife didn't need them, my current wife doesn't need them, and none of my girl friends have ever needed them.

Bear in mind the scale we are talking about. We are making a gell sac the size of a lock spring. That means everything has to be small and thin.

Romstar

[ldnlksmth]

I'm trying... it's just something I remembered from school. Now that I think back on it, it did get kind of brittle after a while.

I did have another thought though: How about KY Jelly? it's water based, basically liquid. I suppose that doesn't help with the skin though.

I'm thinking maybe some kind of thin plastic, possibly cellophane (think flower shops for source) molded around a jig to keep it the right diameter and glued (crazy glue or epoxy are the first things that come to mind) to make a cylinder. Fill it, then glue the end shut with a fold over or something.

[xxgonzoxx]

Bear in mind the scale we are talking about. We are making a gell sac the size of a lock spring. That means everything has to be small and thin.
Romstar

Obviosuly, a breast implant is too large for what is needed. But I think the material that it's made of would be perfect. Now finding one to experiment with...that's another thing...