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by snoopwogg » 4 Dec 2003 18:08
u know i nice big diagram and a video would be very hepful 
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by DrDave » 8 Dec 2003 1:29
Hi All !?!? Me Too... (OLD joke)...
Oh well, a "Video" of the Tubular Picking and ALOT Of GREAT Info can / will be posted as soon as I finish Holiday '2003 stuff or when I'm able to have a place to UPLOAD!!!
Some of you on this site, have been so kind as to EMail me DIRECT and provide "WEB Space". I have now gathered "Locksmith Info" CD's. "CD-A thru CD-G" are now just under 700Mb EACH. That becomes ALOT Of "Info" to Upload.
Any Ideas????
DrDave-USA AWH@Cox.net
Picking locks since 1969....
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by pixlox » 14 Dec 2003 0:31
If your good you stop inbetween clicks reset your pick and push the pick back in to the back of the lock and the pins self adjust to the exact setting......All i do is put the pick in with all the pins reset ... Then i pull my pick out till it clicks then push it pack in whild i have tention on it to the right .. next i put left tention on it pull out till clicks then push back in..7 right and left clicks im in ...
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by att2785 » 16 Dec 2003 4:02
pixlox: That makes absolutly no sense...
I got my South Ord 7 and 8 tube picks today and I am only able to open an off brand $12 bike lock. I have tried others with no success.
Dr. Dave: You said there are two methods to picking the locks, but seem to only go on about your method of pulling the picks back, inserting the tool, then pushing until it hits a "stop". Did I miss it, or did you not explain your second method?
I have attempted the South Ord instructions, but have no idea how you could possibly feel the thing click. Thanks for any helpful topics posted after this comment.
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by Chucklz » 21 Dec 2003 14:42
The Southord tubular instructions are ripped, directly, from the Easy Pickings guide they give you when you buy a pickset from them. I wouldnt trust much of anything from that guide, its full of just bad tips and information, at least from my experience.
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by att2785 » 6 Jan 2004 5:40
After watching the lock picking video, I now understand the simplicity of picking a tube lock (if it does not have pins with different spring tensions, those are another story).
1. Reset your tube pick by setting it perpendicular (right angle) to any hard flat surface and push all picks down so they are flush with the end of the tool.
2. Insert the tube pick into the lock making sure not to rock from side to side.
3. Twist the tube pick clockwise and counter-clockwise (keeping it perfectly perpendicular) while inserted all of the way into the lock and you will see the individual picks gradually work their way up the tool away from the lock.
4. The spring tension from the pins will push all the picks up to their individual sheer lines and it will pop the lock open on your final twist.
5. Twist the tension ring to lock the newly formed key in place (this is after the lock is popped open, the moment after the lock opens before you remove the tool).
Hints:
* This takes a very light touch and quick movements of the hand to twist and jiggle the picking tool while it is inserted all of the way into the lock.
* Take out the tool and check to see if the pick configuration looks like a tube key after several twists, if it does then you are doing this correctly. Keep trying and the lock will pop.
* You have too much tension if none of the picks have moved to form what looks like a key after several twists of the tool
* You have too little tension if all of the picks are pushed all of the way up the tool away from the lock.
* If a key seems to be forming, but the picks have moved too far up the tool then reset it and start over.
* If the lock pick tool does not fit into the lock even after trying to jam it in there, go onto a different lock. Some tube locks I have encountered are too small for the tool and there is no hope of picking them without a smaller tool or an alternative method. The tube picking tool should have a nice snug feel to it, and the picks should move freely.
* Dont bother with the old version south ord brass tube locks, they arn't worth your time or money. The newer rubber handle ones work great.
I have compromised ACE 2 locks with this method, it should work on pretty much everything out there.
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by Fieldy920 » 20 Jan 2004 5:08
My boss has a soda machine in the office with one of those oddball tubular locks. The kind with 6 pins spaced equally around the lock, along with a single pin in between two of those pins. He asked if I could pick the lock and let me go ahead and try.
I used a SouthOrd 8-pin pick; the kind that is slightly smaller than the normal ones. The problem is that the pick didn't make it all the way into the lock, so the end of the pick isn't snug against the back of the lock, so the pins extended past the end of the pick. Is this the right tool for the job? Is there another pick that I should use instead? 
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by Fieldy920 » 20 Jan 2004 5:13
Also, this is a pic of the 8-pin I used.

If the gates of heaven have a lock, I'll pick it. That'd be the only way I'm getting in.
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by Fieldy920 » 26 Jan 2004 16:24
New question, what is the washer above the pins used for? Is it really even necessary?
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by Chucklz » 26 Jan 2004 16:56
I beleive he means the actual washer that is pictured just below the handle. It appears to be used to reset the feelers all at once. Personally I never use it, and if it becomes annoying, just cut it off.
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by joecool2727 » 26 Jan 2004 17:43
can those picks pick offset also?
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by joecool2727 » 27 Jan 2004 21:18
Dr. Dave, i read what you said about picking an offset tubular lock by buying a 8-pin tubular pick the pins will now be lined up with the picks. But i have an 8 pin pick and it wont pick an offset 7 pin, the needles dont line up with the pins. This is because the only difference between a 7 pin pick and an 8 pin pick is that the 8 pin has a neede right over the part that applys tension, its just like a 7 but has an extra needle, the needles arent spaced differently. If you have an 8 pin pick check and i think youll see im right.
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by Nose_Picker » 28 Jan 2004 11:12
I was thinking about this for quite some time.
If the 8 pin pick will fit insode a 7 pin lock, then that would imply that they are the same size.
Now, to get the 8 pins in the same space as 7, you would need to change the spacing.
If not then the 7 pin pick becomes usless because you can just slide the 8th pin back.
So, if the spacing is changed then joecool, your post is innacurate. they must be spaced differently.
If I am wrong, please post picks of the ends of a 7 and an 8 pin tubular lock.
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by joecool2727 » 28 Jan 2004 18:01
Yes i know what you are saying, but i know for a fact that the spacing does not change, it just adds a pick over the tension part. Also, you are correct, the 7 pin is useless because the 8 pin is able to pick a 7 pin lock, just remove a pick, and again this is because the spacing does not change.
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