Easy & convenient way to get out of handcuffs

by **Richard Dragon** » 18 Sep 2005 14:48

Regular paperclips, the really heavy ones, work just fine for even double-locking cuffs like Smith & Wesson. You can bend the end of the clip over using the slot of the keyhole itself.

I agree that the courthouse thing was a cse of overzealousness. First, never forget that what they try to do to you is NOT necessarily a "legal" requirement. I have noticed that a lot in recent years. Further, terrorism or not, they do not have authority to "confiscate" your property -- ANY of it -- without due process of law. Just taking it at a checkpoint does not qualify as "due process".

As for "double jeopardy" and other such matters: Benjamin Franklin, among others, stated tha American law is and should be based on the "long-held" principle that "it is better one hundred guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer."

History shows that this principle works. It has also shown -- clearly and repeatedly -- that other principles do not.

by **NKT** » 20 Sep 2005 4:50

The ease with which handcuffs can be removed is why the process for cuffing is now so detailed, and also one reason why the UK police have the hard plastic insert where the chain would be. By cuffing you thumbs together, palms up, with the lock keyhole on the far side (up and away from you) you will have much trouble getting anything to your hands, let alone actually opening the lock with it.

There are also high security types of cuffs for use in higher risk situations, made by companies like S&W which have proper locks in them.

by **DrStu** » 14 Oct 2005 15:10

I've seen plastic devices that clamp over the keyholes and can be secured with a regular padlock. I am in the Military (US Navy) and when I was trained in Tactical Handcuffing we were taught to look in all the typical hiding places for Picks and Keys IE. Hair, Beltline, Boots ect... I assume Police undergo similar training. When I did Vessel Boardings that required me to carry handcuffs I would carry a small travel roll of Duct Tape that I stomped flat to fit in my pocket. Even if I missed a hidden key it would be hard to use with your thumbs taped together. Also if the suspect is wering a belt I like to pass the cuff under it before securing their other hand.

by **n2oah** » 14 Oct 2005 16:51

How many of you think you could pick these handcuffs behind your back? Or how about the same cuffs except with the transport box with them?

by **Chrispy** » 15 Oct 2005 0:22

No chance. No chance in h*ll.

by **Chrispy** » 15 Oct 2005 6:50

How about picking your way out with one of these on? :wink:

http://www.copsplus.com/prodnum5694.php

by **NKT** » 15 Oct 2005 18:30

And people wonder why criminals are so keen to not get arrested these days...

Surely you just chop off your hands. Then they can't cuff you. Or chop off theirs. That would work too.

by **Chrispy** » 15 Oct 2005 21:10

by **freakshow** » 16 Oct 2005 12:42

NKT wrote:And people wonder why criminals are so keen to not get arrested these days...

Surely you just chop off your hands. Then they can't cuff you. Or chop off theirs. That would work too.

Ahh, but what about leg irons?

Good luck getting out of those with no hands...

by **LOCK--MAN** » 16 Oct 2005 13:25

digital_blue wrote:I don't know about the laws in your area, but it is not illegal in Manitoba to posess either handcuffs or their appropriate keys. I did a little research on this because for a time I had a comedic escape bit in my routine and wanted to know for sure.

Cheers!

db

do you still do this as i know the guy that makes the padlocks for the magic circle its a very simple concept in a normal padlock -- great down the pub any one intrested pm me cheers

by **digital_blue** » 16 Oct 2005 13:28

No, I don't do that routine any more. My involvement in magic is alomost exclusively limited to mentalism these days.

db

by **NKT** » 16 Oct 2005 13:37

So your mental then? I *knew* it!

by **digital_blue** » 16 Oct 2005 13:43

It took you this long to confirm it? I would have thought the fact that I like to spend my Sundays in the woman's apparel department singing "Ta ta ta ta ta ta Touch Me" from The Rocky Horror Picture Show would have tipped you off.

db

by **devildog** » 16 Oct 2005 19:09

pfffftt medeco my behind!! You think THOSE are ridiculous handcuffs?

Chubb STANDARD security lever-lock handcuffs: HERE

Chubb HIGH security prisoner transport handcuffs: HERE

I used those websites because they have better pictures, although the details that the author gives for them is definately incorrect, as he says that the high security ones have at least 12 'pins', and that key is obviously for a rotating disk mechanism a la abloy, so here's Chubb's official website concerning their handcuffs:

http://www.clcsltd.co.uk/handcuffs.htm

I thought of this as I had seen them in LSS, which you may reference on page 418 of Volume I if you have it, or if you don't you can go to security.org and just search for 'handcuffs'.

by **Chrispy** » 17 Oct 2005 4:22

They're not handcuffs.... they're shackles!! :lol:

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