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Any Tips for BEST Cores?

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Any Tips for BEST Cores?

Postby bprzybyl » 2 Feb 2006 10:36

Hello,
I recently acquired some more SFIC BEST cores off ebay. I believe they are E, M, and (dunno yet) keyway. The E is in a padlock, the others are in mortise cylinders. I've also got an R keyway, but I've got all the keys for it (Operating, Master, Control, and a magic key I'll put on here if I get a chance).

Anyways, I got them a couple days ago. M keyway Mortise Core - picked night I got it, as well as last night. Was picked to control line once, and has been picked to operating line 4 times now. The Mystery Keyway has been picked 3 times now, but not to the control line. I'm working on it, as I want that mortise housing.

But the Padlock....AHHHHH!!!! I have tried that thing time and time again. It is ruthless and mean. It refuses to be nice and open. I would like to use it as it looks like it would house a 7 pin core, but that's one of the wierd things about it. Using my half diamond, I can feel only 5 pins in there. I have heard of 6 pin, as well as seen them (the M is 6, R is 7), but never a 5.

And now my question - What am I doing wrong? It (padlock) is pretty weather worn. Sould I douse it in lube of some sort? If so, how, where, and what kind of lube (I know WD-40 is a no no). Would the peterson tools help? My birthday is in a month and 2 days. I can torment myself with it for that long and get the "Group 2" I-core tension set as a gift. I was probably gonna buy some peterson tools anyway, so I could just get both (as in I-core's and "Just Picks - Rubber handles"). I tried making my own, but it isn't worth the $10 diamond file set it was made with.

Thanks,
Brooks Przybylek

P.S. - I have yet to pick the R keyway. It has some Tough bitings. the 7th cut (closest to face of lock) is a 9, while the one just behind it has quite a difference.
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Postby Omikron » 2 Feb 2006 11:05

You probably aren't doing anything wrong, rather just not quite in tune with what's going on inside the lock. Although Best I/C's don't usually come with spool pins, it's POSSIBLE that this particular core may have some spools in it.

On a different note, the I-Core tension tools help immensely when it comes trying to pick the control line. I'd definitely reccommend getting one. Good luck!
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Still no luck

Postby bprzybyl » 24 Feb 2006 3:07

STILL! NOTHING!!

I hate this padlock. I have oiled it very well with some gun oil (supposed to clean while lubricating). Some of the pins regained the springy-ness, but it's still really gunked up. Usually when picking a padlock, you know how you can shake a lock and hear the pins rattle around? this lock will not do it. I can hear the pins settle back when I release tension after another failed attempt at picking, but they wont make noise when shaking. The 1st pin will also take a little "coercing" in order to get it to return to the lowest spot. Can Anyone give me any hints on how to lube this EVIL lock up? I think there was some graphite downstairs, would that be best?

even more worse, I can't even shim it open to give myself a little confidence of beating it. I HATE THIS LOCK! Any help would be great.
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Postby vector40 » 24 Feb 2006 3:34

Flush it completely with some WD-40 to clean it out (really just hose it down), then lube with a synthetic (Teflon or silicone) or something similar.
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WD-40?

Postby bprzybyl » 24 Feb 2006 22:48

WD-40??? BLASPHEMY!!!

I remember hearing on here to never use WD-40. To be honest, at this point I could care less. I'm gonna be popping all the pins out to clean it anyway, so I really don't care what happens to it.

Also, is it possible to get the control & operating plug out without damaging the lock?

Thanks.
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Postby vector40 » 24 Feb 2006 22:52

The idea is that you flush out the WD-40 when you chase with the second lube.

You can pick to the control shearline, or you could drill the retaining lug...
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Hahaha...

Postby bprzybyl » 25 Feb 2006 1:06

vector40 wrote:...chase with the second lube.


Sounds naughty on 2 levels.

But yeah, I will try it. now.
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