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Laptop lock blocked

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Laptop lock blocked

Postby Yetser » 2 Mar 2006 11:12

Hi!
I'd like to know if there's any one that can help me and tell me how to open the blocked lock of my notebook (is a Kensi*), it is stuck and I can not open it with the key... it doesn't turn (both keys) :shock: . I try the keys in the other lock (since it is a twin) and they work :? . I put some lubrifiant but nothing changed. Thank you in advace....
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Postby pizarro » 2 Mar 2006 11:20

If it doen't turn with the key, and you are sure its the right key, then I would say that its broken. If the lock is broken, there may not be a lot you can do with it. Picking a lock usually only really works on a lock if its working, and because you say the key does not work your best option may be to drill it,or use some other destructive method on it.

Unfortunately I have never drilled a lock, so I can't give you any more advice than that.

Just a quick question though, is it attached to your laptop? and did you do anything specific before it stoped working?
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Postby pizarro » 2 Mar 2006 11:35

Oh, and another couple of questions....

does the key fit into the lock properly (i.e. can you push it into the lock)? with the type of lock that it is, you can see all the pins, try prodding them and see if they can move up and down.

The more information you can supply, the more likely we can help.
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Postby Yetser » 2 Mar 2006 11:36

Unfortunately the answer is... yes, it is attached... the good thing is that it is attached at my work place. No, I did nothing before it stopped working... I locked in the morning and when I tried to remove it, it didn't turn. I'm sure it's the right key I’m the only one who have them and when i lock it I keep them with me all day.
We have drill here, so I can try to do it. I also was thinking of using a freezing spray but I don't know how cold should I go to brittle the metal (steel i suppose)... thank you for ur answer.
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Postby Yetser » 2 Mar 2006 11:41

There's one pin that moves quite a little bit compared with the others but the print in the key for this pin is tallest so I think he doesn't go down as far as the others.
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Postby pizarro » 2 Mar 2006 11:57

so all the pins actually move? That sounds like the pins are not jamming. Can you fit the key in the lock?

the lock should have two notches that should be lined up. the notche can be seen if you look at the lock where you put the key. are they lined up?
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Postby Yetser » 2 Mar 2006 12:27

Yes, they are lined up..... I can introduce the key without problem, as i do with the other lock (remember it is a twin) but in the one that is stuck it just doesn't turn... the pins move equally... the one that moves a little bit in the one stuck moves the same way in its twin.
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Postby pizarro » 2 Mar 2006 12:45

As the two notches line up and you can fit the key in properly, then I am pretty positive that your lock has not been partially picked. :D

As the pins will move up and down, then they are unlikely to be jamming and causing the lock not to rotate.

As your key works in its twin lock, this means that without examining the lock myself, the only possible guess as to why its not working would be if one or more of the pins have started to wear down, thus causing the key not to push the pins correctly to its shear line.
Due to the type of lock, the pins should have a flat top with a crisp sharp edge to them, if they don't have this then thats your problem. If they do look in good condition, then I'm all out of ideas as to why the lock is not working. sorry.....
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Postby Jaakko » 2 Mar 2006 13:37

One word: Thermite 8) Seriously speaking I'm guessing that either your ock has worn out parts or it is broken internally. I'd say that the best way to get thru it is destructive entry.
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Postby paul1982 » 2 Mar 2006 17:47

Is the keyway got anything pushed in it at the back. Compare it to other one and see if there is any differences. Might be the key is not pushing all the way in thus not creating a shearline
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Postby clayton1123 » 2 Mar 2006 18:52

If all else fails why not just ask your boss to repair it? If it is owned by him he should be able to replace it for you.
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Postby rayman452 » 2 Mar 2006 20:32

Anyone think maybe doing the paper toilet impressioning would work here? If a pin got loose, this might work.

I also notice you're from france. Could you do a bilingual version so I can read some france french instead of my Quebec french?

As-tu ecrit en francais parce que je veux lit francais.


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Postby pizarro » 2 Mar 2006 21:03

rayman452 wrote:Anyone think maybe doing the paper toilet impressioning would work here? If a pin got loose, this might work.


probably not, as the most likely thing that would have broken would be a spring, because unlike with a normal pin tumpler lock, the key pushes the pins straight down rather than raking across them each time you incert the key.
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Postby Yetser » 3 Mar 2006 9:32

Hello I was absent due to the differences in time (here we r 7 hrs ahead from North America).... I thought about the toilet paper and the pen... but with those techniques you still need the lock to be able to turn and as it doesn't turn... even if you can reproduce the correct position of the pins there's no case. Et oui… je peux parler et écrire français mais ce n'est pas ma langue maternelle donc je ne la maîtrise pas complètement...
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Postby Yetser » 3 Mar 2006 9:44

Jaakko wrote:One word: Thermite 8) Seriously speaking I'm guessing that either your ock has worn out parts or it is broken internally. I'd say that the best way to get thru it is destructive entry.


Could u define "destructive"?... remember that the notebook is locked with it so there's some restriction of place... thanks. I have a sray that can frozen things down to -55°C if I try this I should to protect the notebook...
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