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Worn out Locks...

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Worn out Locks...

Postby mrracer98 » 16 Mar 2006 4:35

Hey All,

Yes I'm a newb... from the states, it seems like many of you are from the UK? Anyhow, I'm having a good time picking and am very tactile and patient, yet I find worn out regular old "handle locks" (for lack of a proper name) to be the hardest for me to pick. It seems very hard to indivdually pick these pins because of all the lateral and in-out movement made by these worn locks.

Question, is a person better of just raking the heck out of these and hoping for the best or is there a better way than just patients when trying to keep torque on the wrench, holding the handle in one place, compensating for lateral movement while trying to *pick* these locks?

Any tips/advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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Postby dazza » 16 Mar 2006 4:59

HI


do you have to hold the handle cant you open the lock then turn the handle?

there is lots and lots of people that are members from u.s
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Postby skold » 16 Mar 2006 8:59

Are these paticular locks dirty? i would completely disassemble the lock and clean all of the crap out of it. If the pins are worn it may also be wise to replace them with fresh ones, and also some new springs couldn't hurt..

For me, i find super hard tension will open an old kwikset or similar brand KIK.
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Postby raimundo » 16 Mar 2006 11:19

perhaps by 'handle locks' hes refering to kik, but I thought I'd mention that the ADA (americans with disabilities act, which sets standards for public access to doors, width of sidewalks, height of drinking fountains etc) handles, which are a sort of lever handle, are frequently broken, probably by young apes who use brute force and stupidity. these locks are not worn out, but actually broken,
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Re: kik

Postby mrracer98 » 16 Mar 2006 12:16

raimundo wrote:perhaps by 'handle locks' hes refering to kik, but I thought I'd mention that the ADA (americans with disabilities act, which sets standards for public access to doors, width of sidewalks, height of drinking fountains etc) handles, which are a sort of lever handle, are frequently broken, probably by young apes who use brute force and stupidity. these locks are not worn out, but actually broken,


I'm just talking about a regular old twist handle/5 pin tumbler lock. The most common lock. If there is a certain term, please enlighten me :o

I can get picking along just fine. I get 2-3 pins set, then because of the sloppy handle it moves and I lose my torque then my pins fall back. Just wondering if anyone else has had these issues, and if so what they have done to combat it. Thanks!
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Postby skold » 16 Mar 2006 14:12

Get a new knob?

Is it mounted or what?



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Postby mrracer98 » 16 Mar 2006 17:30

skold wrote:Get a new knob?

Is it mounted or what?



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NO...lol... i could get a hammer too! I'm wondering how you guys pick them. People call the locksmiths to get into their house not to break in. They can do that.

I'm talking about you go to a house and the knob locks are worn a bit. But they work just fine with the key yet... except they're wiggly.

I was working on a lock after the cops couldnt get in, the resident called me to see if I could pick in, Well I couldn't do it either. Yet I felt I could not do it because of my lack of experience with worn locks. Just wondering if anyone has tips
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Postby linty » 16 Mar 2006 18:37

i believe the proper term you are looking for is key-in-knob.

as for being hard to pick because of lateral movement, the plug in KIK locks are often the same as those used in rim locks, you shouldn't really have any great difficulty with worn KIK's although worn locks in general can sometimes be tricky due to gummed up pins that bind in the wrong places or collapsed springs.

i daresay that in most cases if you are applying enough torque to actually turn the handle you might be applying too much torque.
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Postby Chucklz » 16 Mar 2006 18:55

Use the 4th or 5th finger on your picking hand to steady the plug while picking.
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Postby mrracer98 » 17 Mar 2006 15:59

Thanks guys!
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