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by skibum5889 » 29 Jan 2004 16:11
Can anybody tell me about safe cracking, and what to do?
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by Chucklz » 29 Jan 2004 16:25
Yes I can. I know some things, but not a great deal.
Now the question from you "Will you teach me?"
Me : No. Why not? Well think about it. Think of the kinds of stuff found in safes. Now why would I be an accessory to some crime?
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by Varjeal » 29 Jan 2004 17:44
Sure. I'll help you out.
Safe-cracking is the criminal act gaining entry to a safe in order to relieve the legitimate owner of whatever "valuables" may be inside. Preferrably in the shortest amount of time without the person actually knowing. This usually involves illegaly entering said owner's premises and either stealing the safe to work on it somewhere else, or making quick work of it right on the spot. Of course, the fewer tools required the better since it can be tough to lug around some of those really heavy ones.
What to do? Purchase mass quantities of explosives, or better yet, use formulas as shown in the Anarchists' cookbook series to make your own. Also purchase the largest 24V Cordless Impact drill you can find. Get a nice big 3" holesaw or 1" concrete bit and go to town.
Good luck. 
*insert witty comment here*
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by skibum5889 » 29 Jan 2004 20:29
I was wondering because my dad owns a buisness. I go there all the time after school and they have a safe there that they don't use anymore. I don't have anything else to do there, so i want to see if i can open it. Of course we have the combination, but i want to open it without looking at the comb.
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by Nose_Picker » 29 Jan 2004 20:58
Apparently the proper combination of Vaseliene, Gas, and styrofoam can make napalm...
Try that.
(We are not going to tell you how to open a safe.)
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by Mad Mick » 29 Jan 2004 21:18
You could watch plenty of spy films and the like.
Or... Of course we have the combination, but i want to open it without looking at the comb.
try closing your eyes.
 If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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by unclepappy » 29 Jan 2004 21:38
I find myself wondering why a group of people who sit and write about lock picking would be so adverse to lending insight on safe opening techniques. After all lock picking and safe opening are 6 of 1 and one half dozen of the other. Guy if you really want to open your dads safe. You will need to learn how a safe works. Find a book on manipulation. Because drilling isn't an option. Search it from Amazon.com.
Don't do anything illegal.
Cheers
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by Chucklz » 29 Jan 2004 22:28
You already have the combo? I guess you might be able to use the door to learn manipulation. Frankly, your options for opening a safe are limited to having the correct combination, manipulating the lock --in the process you will obtain a combination-- or drilling etc. Frankly there is no way you have the right equipment and knowledge to put a drill to your safe, unless your father is a safe and vault technician.......then why would you need to ask here?.... Safes have their name for a good reason.
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by Mad Mick » 29 Jan 2004 23:05
Safes have their name for a good reason.
If they didn't, they'd be called ACOME's - Anyone Can Open Me Easily's
My question is:
Why do you want to start with safes?
It seems like wanting to open a coconut with your head. Start with the less difficult locks first, and work your way up once you have proved yourself.
 If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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by Chucklz » 29 Jan 2004 23:30
I wouldnt suggest banging your head against the safe. Especially if it has a glass plate relocking mechanism. You just KNOW it will fire .
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by Chubby » 30 Jan 2004 0:02
skibum5889
A friend of mine and I "Cracked" his safe a couple of years back & think I probably know enough to have a go at your average safe models with the information I've picked up since then (nearly all involves drilling) I wouldn't take some of the above comments too much to heart, I suspect 98% of those that don't want to help you out can't help you out because they don't know how to!
I would suggest that you try and find as much information about the safe model that you can, the most important thing is to understand how they work, without the make and model I certainly can't help you out.
I had to nod in agreement with the comment made by a "Safe Cracker" that was up against one of the newest high securtiy safes and that was "If somebody built it, somebody can un-build it!" John falles is just one example...not everyone who wants to learn these tecniques is a "Crook" this is the exact same label that the uninformed slap on lockpickers, lockpicking already carries a big stigma with it, one that we all try to educate n00bys about, perhaps some of you guys for that reason should take a leaf out of your own books before getting caught up in a frenzied "Lynching mob" ... 
Support your local locksmith -- lose a key. Support your local institutional locksmith -- lose a master key.
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by Mad Mick » 30 Jan 2004 0:16
Chubby,
I'll openly admit I don't have a clue about safes, but I don't want to start baking a cake when I don't know what an egg is.
If this guy wants to start with safes, good luck to him. If he's legitimate, then the best of luck to him.
 If it ain't broke.....pull it down and see how it works anyway!
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by Chubby » 30 Jan 2004 0:23
Chucklz
I know a very good story about a 5ft Treager floor safe, solid steel body, filled with aluminum & colbolt, half inch door plate, double dialed, with glass door packs, that was "Ahem!" opened in under fifteen minutes, if you interested in how, let me know, I know how you like the laws Physics....Oh! I just thought! you probably already sussed it out... 
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by Mad Mick » 30 Jan 2004 0:34
Using the laws of physics, if it were filled with aluminum & colbolt (should read "cobalt"), there wouldn't be much point using it, as there'd be no room for anything else. 
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