lockpicking gun

[johnnyrocket]

i understand that lockpicking can take much time to master...I would like to eventually be able to get there, but until then i was wondering wut u guys think of lockpick guns...are they effective?...rather than bumping the pins do they just utilize "scrubbing/raking"? Thanks for the input!!

[Shrub]

Are you wanting to become a locksmith?

If so follow what your course told you,

Otherwise they are good on locks but can do damage, they dont rake the locks but work more like bumping,

Have a read on site and get all your questions answered as they have all been asked before,

You SHOULD learn picking by hand BEFORE useing easyier faster methods, learn how to pick then if becomeing a lockie get a gun otherwise dont bother,

[UWSDWF]

*YAAAWN* this again.....

[dosman]

*YAAAWN* this again.....

Interesting attitude. If you're so tired of this why even participate? Surely there's something more enjoyable for you to do with your time. I'm not attempting to be hostile towards you, I just always see you barking at noobs and being grumpy towards people here.

[Shrub]

Thing is though this question has been asked at least 6-8 times the last 4 days, all we want is noobs to search before they post but its not goign to happen all the time so some get miffed and others ignore them,

I understand your statement but also see uwsdwf's point, somtimes we just need a break and a night out

[UWSDWF]

*YAAAWN* this again.....

Interesting attitude. If you're so tired of this why even participate? Surely there's something more enjoyable for you to do with your time. I'm not attempting to be hostile towards you, I just always see you barking at noobs and being grumpy towards people here.

I think you need to read the OP. The person in question doesn't want to learn to pick locks, just open them quickly. To me this insinuates criminal intentions and hence I have nothing more then an ill statement to make. By all means just because you cannot see at the same level of comedy that I dictate to others does not make me 'grumpy' or 'barking'. Do I jump on top of persons with questionable ethics? Yes. Do I get annoyed by people who do not read the forum rules? Yes. If that offends you then I sincerely apologize. I had no intentions of having you point out your opinion towards my attitude or otherwise. Furthermore, just because a person states "I'm not attempting to be hostile towards you" does not make that so, especially when you frame that statement as you did. I find this an outright act of hostility and denote said actions. If you do not understand my brand of comedy, if you cannot appreciate what I have to say or cannot grasp the situation I am replying to, I implore you not to remark but instead sit in the corner with a pointy hat. Your negativity towards a comment I made, admittedly in public but, geared to Shrub’s reply, in a joking manner was attacking and unnecessary. Also please note that everything you have said I have took into consideration and found to false, so I will not heed your misdirected advice. In future any comments you’d like to make towards me, my attitude or my style of writing may be addressed to thepope@vatican.va, as I assume he may care more then I.

[Lauren]

I defend Shrub on this one. Pickguns are unreliable and offer no reflections of one's skill. Let's all remember, this forum is about sport. Pickguns among other items, don't show any sport. I rather go fishing than by a fish at the grocery store.

[Shrub]

Hmm well i didnt actually say they are unreliable but rather not for a sport picker but i get what you meant and we meant the same i think

[Romstar]

Well, just to be sure, I may as well jump on the boat as well.

I agree with UWSDWF, the situation is getting to the point where people simply don't read the rules, or the notices. They see "lockpicking101" and instantly jump in asking any innane question that comes to mind.

The original poster in this case seems to be wanting to simply open locks. This says to me, as it did to UWSDWF, that the poster may be intrested in something other than sport picking.

Shurb correctly asked if they were intending to be a working locksmith, in which case the question may have some small merit, but still disregards the rules and spirit of the site.

Obviously the original poster had not taken the time to learn anything about pick guns, or they would not have asked the question about how they effected the lock pins. With only one exception that I am aware of, all pick guns utilize a technique that impacts the bottom pins in the lock. They do not use any method of scrubbing. A brief search of the site would have told the original poster that information.

Further, as both UWSDWF and Shrub have correctly pointed out, this information is quickly, and readily available to anyone who takes the time to simply read for a while.

If anyone is at all interested in this material for hobby, educational, or work purposes, they will read. If they ask questions that have easily found answers, or seem to indicate a desire to merely open locks, most members of this forum will assume activities that are either illegal, or not in the spirit of the site.

However, in the interests of fairness, and making the assumption that the original poster is simply excited I can simply say that hobbiests should never start with any sort of pick gun. While the normal manual gun causes little to no damage, the electric ones can cause some problems when used by those people who do not know how they work. Your time is much better spent learning how a lock functions, and how the various hand picking tools manipulate that mechanism and develop your skills from there.

Good luck,
Romstar

[Shrub]

Just to add, if you dont know the basics or can do the basics your stuck when a) the epg runs out of batteries and b) your stuck if the locks damaged or the epg damages it,

To put it in perspective, if you was to put a epg in a lock for say 30 seconds without opening it the key if still working (this depends on the quality of the lock) will almost certainly be very stiff to turn, you will see brass fileings coming out the lock and the lock will need replacing,

What was that saying?
Guns for show picks for a pro

[UWSDWF]

I thought the saying was "If it's pink, hope it don't stink and if it's brown turn it down" or maybe I'm thinking of something else

[jiggler]

Some would say that "any hole's a goal"

[Dickbas]

Im a spammer and a looser, i need to get a life,

[parapilot]

Spam within a thread - they are getting clever!