Southord or Lockpicktools

by **rocketmn333** » 30 Jul 2007 12:06

ok, i am new to the website and i was hoping you guys could help me out, the title kinda gives it away, ok so as the title says, Southord or Lockpicktools, now i know as you guys said in other posts that i have seen, you guys said that they were both very trustable websites, now see i want to get into lock picking, but i was wondering what i should go with, they both have a kind of beginner set of picks and a little book and ect, but Lockpicktools has a cheaper beginner set, would you guys suggest that i buy the cheap set from there, and if i get into lock picking, i can see which site would give me more of an upgrade

Thanks much,
Rocket

by **freakparade3** » 30 Jul 2007 12:13

Lockpicktools has very good quality at a very reasonable price. I recommend them.

by **rocketmn333** » 30 Jul 2007 12:23

ok ty, now time to find some cash lol

by **tmaxx258** » 30 Jul 2007 13:19

I perfer lockpicktools over southord,both are good but lockpicktools has cool handels that feel good,and there cheaper,and good quality as stated above.

by **blake1803** » 30 Jul 2007 14:16

I don't understand why tools made by SouthOrd and Lockpicktools are almost unequivocally suggested to beginners when an effective set of Peterson/HPC/Rytan etc tools can be had for a price that is very negligibly different.

The idea of playing around with a "beginner set" for a while and then eventually upgrading seems pointless and wasteful.

I don't mean to put down SouthOrd or Lockpicktools/Southern Specialties/RCS/whatever other names that company goes by, but even beyond my own personal preference for other manufacturers, every time we've had a poll, those two haven't done as well as others.

by **Eyes_Only** » 30 Jul 2007 15:41

Well there is always the possibility of the novices who just joined the site to be curious about picking but after some time later on loses interest and the pick set ending up in the bottom of the closet, rarely ever to be touched again. I rather suggest someone new a SO set rather than a better Peterson when something like that happens. And it does happen a lot from what I've noticed.

by **blake1803** » 30 Jul 2007 18:40

That's true, but even then, the HPC "novice" set is only around $22 for 7 picks, 3 tension tools and an extractor, which is $15 cheaper than than that MPXS-14 set from SouthOrd that seems to get recommended very often.

Buying a set of Peterson/HPC/Rytan pick-by-pick is even cheaper, too.

If anything, a beginner needs fewer picks... For example if they were to buy individual Petersons (for example a hook, diamond and snake) it would only cost $12. They could buy a set of tension tools from somewhere else for a few bucks. Then they could add more picks and tension tools as their needs grow... or if they decide they don't like the sport, then they've only spent a small amount of money. But the point is that they'd be starting on a foundation of good tools so there would be no need to "upgrade" -- just to add more tools. I'm pretty sure the only SO tool I ever use anymore is the small diamond.

That's just my personal opinion, I do realize that there are other mindsets. I just figured I'd throw that out there in case newcomers were under the impression that there are limited options for beginning sets, or for people who think that Peterson is very expensive just because of the Government Steel picks, etc.

by **n00bking** » 30 Jul 2007 19:12

Peterson's picks are like 4 dollars a pick.

LPT's are 1.29 for the n00bish handles.

by **kissnatcher1** » 30 Jul 2007 19:41

Wouldnt it be better if its the same ole same ole on quality that we tell the new comers to support the sponsors of the site if its all about the same on cost and supply?Just wondering

by **freakparade3** » 30 Jul 2007 23:37

blake1803 wrote:I don't understand why tools made by SouthOrd and Lockpicktools are almost unequivocally suggested to beginners

Alot has to do with technique. Falle Safe is pretty much the Cadillac of picks. A beginner will not do a thing with them however. New pickers need to get down the basics and will likely break a few picks along the way. It's best if they break a $2 pick instead of one that is part of a $300 set.

by **GutterClown** » 31 Jul 2007 2:51

Ok, here's the deal.

I'm assuming you're new to lockping (if not, you may be able to skip some of this)
If you havn't got any picks, buy a Short Hook, a Double Ball, a duel-tention tool, and a set of tention tweasers.
that's a very cheap kit (no matter where you get it from) that should allow you to see if you like the sport of lockpicking.

Then, once you've decided if you like it or not, you can get a full set.
Don't bother wasting your time on 'beginner' sets. Spend some time and effort looking around this site to see people's kits and what most people prefer, and get a full kit straight away (note: full does not mean eleventy billion picks, it means a kit that suits you)

For instance, you may be an auto-wreaker, and may have no need for warded padlock picks, or the other way around, you may only mess around with padlocks and deadbolts, and would never need an auto-tention tool.

So buy that simple kit, have a few picks at some locks, and decide if you like the sport. Then get a good quality set, all in one go. you won't regret it. (Custom picksets always feel better to own than huge sets that are half used, or tiny sets that arn't suited to the job)

Personally I'd recommend getting some HPC laminated picks to learn with. Not too many, just something to play with. Some people don't bother with anything other than HPC, because they're simple and cheap.

by **globallockytoo** » 31 Jul 2007 4:10

Is it perhaps that HPC/Rytan picks are not sold to the general public?

by **GutterClown** » 31 Jul 2007 8:05

globallockytoo wrote:Is it perhaps that HPC/Rytan picks are not sold to the general public?

this forum has a Buy - Sell - Trade section where picksets can often be found.

by **globallockytoo** » 31 Jul 2007 12:33

oh...okay....I see what you mean....I thought it was meant from a commercial supplier.

by **Eyes_Only** » 31 Jul 2007 13:32

I agree with the HPC thing. They are great tools and arn't that expensive. Something you can hang onto for a good long time.

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