A refresher on security pins

[no11550s]

Hi guys, can I get a couple of you to post links to past explainations on working security pins. I'm having a "Duh" moment ... thanks. Im just not finding what I need with the search function. Thank you in advance

[marv711]

Hi I found this by jiggler, I'm having the same problem and sometimes it helps to just walk away from it. Go watch a movie or eat something then see if you can't do it. If I work on a lock too long I find myself overloading on pressure and forcing it. If the site search isn't working for you try google site search

You've got to feel it Tozzy.

When you get to a security pin you'll find you are able to push it down and then it wil stop without setting. You will need to release tension a little and force it to set by pressing harder on the pin stack. When you set the security pin the extra force you use will probably cause a previously set pin to come unset and you'll have to set it again. You just have to deal with this. It's hard to put into words. You will just have to feel the state of the pins and that's something you'll have to learn yourself - no one can tell you how to feel it. As lockey1963 says, the overlifting method does work. You will find the way that suits you best.

You really do need to complete these excercises and you will start to feel what's going on a lot better... viewtopic.php?t=10677

You will take all the pins out of the lock and pick with just one standard pin in. Then 2, then 3 etc.

Then you can pick with just one security pin in it, then 2, then 3, then a combination of security and standard pins etc. etc.

You can make a plug follower from a rolled up section of plastic bottle to change the driver pins. You will need some small pliers or tweezers to get the springs and driver pins back in when you are ready to add more pins back to the lock.

You will not be able to feel what's going on unless you have something to refer to. If you've picked a cylinder with one standard and one security pin 100 times then you will know what they feel like, when they are set and how to get them to set properly.

The excercise breaks the task into small pieces for you. It will take you less time to get better at picking by taking smaller steps to start with. Don't rush.

hope it helps

[Eyes_Only]

On a fully pinned cylinder with security drivers it helps to vary the tension as you try to set the pin. You'll get the hang of it and develop your own style as you gain more experience through practice.

I highly recommend training yourself to bypass spooled and serrated drivers on a kwikset lock first. They are very sloppy locks so it'll make it much easier for anyone that do not have this skill yet compared to a schlage.

The 6 pin Kwikset/Titan UltraMax cylinders come with spool drivers.

[Shrub]

Hi guys, can I get a couple of you to post links to past explainations on working security pins. I'm having a "Duh" moment ... thanks. Im just not finding what I need with the search function. Thank you in advance

Here you go, try security and pins or sppol and pins or mushroom and pins

[no11550s]

Thank you all, your help is greatly appreciated.

[Shrub]

Sorry that should have been spool and pins,

You use 'AND' between words to limit the search,

Ive posted how to determine and pick security pins 3 times in the last week so youll be fine,

Take your time and think what it is your doing in the lock as a mental image, almost think of yourself as having xray eyes,

[ObiWonShinobi]

Kinda hard to describe, but once you get the feel for it....comes naturraly.

When you feel a spool set, ant the plug rotate.... push the pick a little harder,
and then sloooooowly ease back on tension...

you will then feel TWO MORE POPS...and possibly hear....
as the pin UNsets... progresses further in... and REsets on the new shearline.
Then check your other pins

setting one spool may reset another.... a little trial and error is needed.