Lock Picking 101 Forum
A community dedicated to the fun and ethical hobby of lock picking.
       

Lock Picking 101 Home
Login
Profile
Members
Forum Rules
Frequent Forum Questions
SEARCH
View New Posts
View Active Topics


Live Chat on Discord
LP101 Forum Chat
Keypicking Forum Chat
Reddit r/lockpicking Chat



Learn How to Pick Locks
FAQs & General Questions
Got Beginner Questions?
Pick-Fu [Intermediate Level]


Ask a Locksmith
This Old Lock
This Old Safe
What Lock Should I Buy?



Hardware
Locks
Lock Patents
Lock Picks
Lock Bumping
Lock Impressioning
Lock Pick Guns, Snappers
European Locks & Picks
The Machine Shop
The Open Source Lock
Handcuffs


Member Spotlight
Member Introductions
Member Lock Collections
Member Social Media


Off Topic
General Chatter
Other Puzzles


Locksmith Business Info
Training & Licensing
Running a Business
Keyways & Key Blanks
Key Machines
Master Keyed Systems
Closers and Crash Bars
Life Safety Compliance
Electronic Locks & Access
Locksmith Supplies
Locksmith Lounge


Buy Sell Trade
Buy - Sell - Trade
It came from Ebay!


Advanced Topics
Membership Information
Special Access Required:
High Security Locks
Vending Locks
Advanced Lock Pick Tools
Bypass Techniques
Safes & Safe Locks
Automotive Entry & Tools
Advanced Buy/Sell/Trade


Locksport Groups
Locksport Local
Chapter President's Office
Locksport Board Room
 

My crudely made cutaway...(pic)

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

My crudely made cutaway...(pic)

Postby SnowyBoy » 16 Aug 2007 15:33

I butchered that double cylinder union lock i had last night because my new picks should be arriving this week, and i want to get the hang of lifting the pins.

Least it gives me a nice visual guide showing me what movement i make with the pick translates into the pin.

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/563/cimg4497qu4.jpg

Took the best part of 3 hours with only a hacksaw + file lol

You might notice the screws in the top, I thought i would do this instead of replacing the plugs i punched out, so if i decide to dismantle it, i can, without problems.

There's also a half cut circlip on the back of the plug with a grub screw holding it, so just unscrew the grub and the plug can come out too :)
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
SnowyBoy
 
Posts: 1075
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 20:15
Location: London UK

Postby tmaxx258 » 16 Aug 2007 15:37

looks nice.
Image
tmaxx258
 
Posts: 143
Joined: 9 Jul 2007 22:22
Location: Chisholm,MN

Postby SnowyBoy » 16 Aug 2007 15:40

tmaxx258 wrote:looks nice.


Personally i think it looks sh*t, but it behaves just as it did before i done the work, so that's the main thing :D

Thanks for your comment :)
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
SnowyBoy
 
Posts: 1075
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 20:15
Location: London UK

Postby illusion » 16 Aug 2007 15:51

You've done it the 'bad' way tbh.

You can't see the bottom pins, and hence you lose a big part of the cut-away.

What are all the bolts at the top for? OK, I know what they're for, but I'm wondering why you didn't repin the lock normally, thus removing the need to even use them.

Get some fine grade wet-or-dry sandpaper and get the lock smooth - it will look a lot nicer. :)

Other than that it's not a bad first attempt - I'll see if I can dig a photo up of one of the cylinder cut-aways I've made. :wink:
illusion
 
Posts: 4567
Joined: 2 Sep 2005 13:47

Postby illusion » 16 Aug 2007 16:04

I just found a few pics of my older cut-aways on ym Photobucket account.

Evva DP5 - Cool lock with a sidebar.

Image

My first cut-away - an Iseao 5 pin Euro-cylinder. :)

Image

You can see how the working of the lock are better exposed and the better finish that comes as a result IMHO.
illusion
 
Posts: 4567
Joined: 2 Sep 2005 13:47

Postby SnowyBoy » 16 Aug 2007 16:13

Nice cutaways :)

I'm not fussed about seeing the sheer line....I want to better myself at lifting pins individually, and higher than i am now.

I tend to over reach for the back pin all the time, and when i do get it, i never lift it high enough because i don't know the right movement to do so.

This helps me to see how high i am lifting the pin, thus allowing me to concentrate on manipulating the pick in the right way.

:)
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
SnowyBoy
 
Posts: 1075
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 20:15
Location: London UK

Postby SnowyBoy » 16 Aug 2007 16:16

P.s I'm gonna have a go ad doing the same style you have :)
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
SnowyBoy
 
Posts: 1075
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 20:15
Location: London UK

Postby Kaotik » 16 Aug 2007 16:59

Here is one of my first cut-away's, it's an ABUS. I just havent got around to finishing the plug though.

Locked:
Image

Unlocked:
Image

I used a DIY milling machine to do the job.
Image
Kaotik
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 1200
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 13:38
Location: Texas, USA

Postby SnowyBoy » 16 Aug 2007 17:21

Nice, I'm going to have a go with that other half!

Watch me make a right mess xD
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
SnowyBoy
 
Posts: 1075
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 20:15
Location: London UK

Postby illusion » 16 Aug 2007 17:41

Watch me make a right mess xD


I've ruined loads of locks - The good part is that you generally don't make the same mistake twice and improve greatly from making said errors.

Go for it - at the worst you'll mess up your lock, but you'll gain great experience.

Post photos when you're done - I'm enjoying this thread. :)
illusion
 
Posts: 4567
Joined: 2 Sep 2005 13:47

Postby SnowyBoy » 16 Aug 2007 18:15

illusion wrote:

Go for it - at the worst you'll mess up your lock


Check!

It was bound to happen. Ah well, lucky i got about 5 locks comming tomorrow in the post :)
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
SnowyBoy
 
Posts: 1075
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 20:15
Location: London UK

Postby Kaotik » 17 Aug 2007 1:09

illusion wrote:I'm enjoying this thread.


So am I, it has good potential.

SnowyBoy wrote:It was bound to happen.


It's all a part of the learning curve. Just learn from it and most importantly, have fun.
Image
Kaotik
Moderator Emeritus
 
Posts: 1200
Joined: 10 Jun 2006 13:38
Location: Texas, USA

Postby SnowyBoy » 17 Aug 2007 7:11

I'm glad you like the thread. :)

Its been a bit crappy in pick fu lately, noobs signing up under the impression they are going to learn how to exploit locks over night. Its not going to happen, but they are convinced it will.

Anyway, I was going to ask you about this DIY milling machine, got any pics of it at all?

I was thinking of getting some sort of circular saw that is the perfect width for the grooves, as a hack saw is too thin, and the dremel attachment i have is too wide. Need a perfect balance in size between the two.
What a load of old BiLocks!!!!

I'm probably 0 for 400 in looking for safes behind wall paintings
SnowyBoy
 
Posts: 1075
Joined: 15 Nov 2006 20:15
Location: London UK

Postby Eyes_Only » 17 Aug 2007 7:15

I've never built my own cut-away before but I know some of us who has made one have used a dremel tool if I remember correctly. There should be some cutting wheel that should work. I think LockNewbie used a dremel and finished his cut-aways with a diamond file or something like that.
If a lock is a puzzle, then its key is the complete picture
Eyes_Only
Supporter
Supporter
 
Posts: 4111
Joined: 17 Dec 2003 20:33

Postby Peaky » 17 Aug 2007 11:57

You can use two hacksaw blades on your saw to make wider cuts, dont use more than two or else the first becomes slack when the last is tightened,
Always finish off with needle files and emry paper,
Peaky
 
Posts: 459
Joined: 24 Oct 2004 10:43
Location: Derbyshire, UK

Next

Return to Pick-Fu [Intermediate Skill Level]

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 4 guests

cron