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by Puzzlebox » 27 Nov 2007 5:18
OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I JUST PICKED A BRINKS SHROUDED PAD LOCK!!!!!!
I'm so STOKED!!! My first "max" security lock!
I've been able to get he 4 pin masters pretty easy (all ranked medium security)
(^__^) Max security..... mouhahaha I'm finally here!!!
Locks... just little puzzle boxes waiting to be solved.
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by jgor » 27 Nov 2007 11:17
Congrats!
In my experience there are much easier Brinks locks rated "max security", so their rating system can be taken with a grain of salt. But the Brinks Shrouded padlock is by far the hardest i've come across, so that's quite an accomplishment!
My advice is not to move on from this lock immediately though. For me the difference between when I first picked it and when I could pick it consistently was still a month or so. Keep working on it and make sure you can pick it consistently before moving on to higher security locks.
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by Puzzlebox » 27 Nov 2007 11:44
I've picked it almost 13 times so far. It takes me 5-6 min to get it to open. This particular lock is odd, the pins set from front to back (front being the closest to you), so after getting a false set, I single pin pick it from front to back. I can do it pretty consistently. If the key (and in turn the pins) had a more jagged set up it would be harder to get, they have somewhat of a progression to them.
hmm... a picture is worth a thousand words here.. here's a picture of the key.
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w285 ... C00052.jpg
And here's when I picked it for the very first time (^___^)
http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w285 ... C00049.jpg
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by FFVison » 27 Nov 2007 13:13
Holy cannoli!!! You picked that with a paper clip? Wow! Congrats. I have one of these and I haven't been able to pick it with proper picks. I have 2 other Brinks padlocks, one is a gate lock as it says on the packaging. It's a laminated lock about the size and weight of the Master #5. I have picked that fairly easily at first, though it has gotten a lot harder as of late, though I can still occasionally do it. My other Brinks lock is an R70 which is pretty easy for me. But my shrouded is one of the ones I have that I haven't gotten yet. I have probably too many right now that fall in that category, but the ones I can get sometimes seem inconsistent. So yeah, keep working on that shrouded lock, and good luck.
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by Puzzlebox » 27 Nov 2007 13:21
The paper clip was used to stop the tension wrench from catching on the side wall... I got the idea from watching a youtube video of someone doing it with two tension wrenches. I actually picked it with a small diamond pick from the JPXS-6F from southord.
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by jgor » 27 Nov 2007 13:30
Puzzlebox wrote:The paper clip was used to stop the tension wrench from catching on the side wall... I got the idea from watching a youtube video of someone doing it with two tension wrenches.
Wow, I can't believe I didn't think of that sooner! That's an awesome idea, at least 3 locks I have come to mind that would be so much easier using the two tension wrenches or a paperclip in between, i'd just never seen that before. Up until now i've been balancing the tension tool between the wards, or using an oversized tension tool that would reach high enough that it wouldn't slip. Needless to say both methods were inconvenient. Thanks, and great job with picking the lock multiple times!
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by Gordon Airporte » 27 Nov 2007 22:45
It took me forever to get mine the first time - what a great feeling.
The paperclip idea is good, but I use a wrench with a very short stub of a blade and tension from the other end of the keyway.
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by New-York-Locksmith » 28 Nov 2007 0:58
Congratulations!!! Good work with paperclip. All the best for all you future attempts.
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by raimundo » 28 Nov 2007 8:30
hey puzzle was that the video of Christa bittits doing the american lock?  she uses two tensors, one just to keep the other one from biteing the cylinder wall. Look on you tube for her, or there are some other places with the vids. 
Wake up and smell the Kafka!!!
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by LockNewbie21 » 3 Dec 2007 1:43
Now your next lock presumably would be an "american" brand padlock. Thats the lock brinks ripped off.
Well done.
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by Puzzlebox » 3 Dec 2007 4:40
I've opened the first cylinder on my American 5100 in about 15 min... and went back to the lock shop to get another. The Locksmith sold me one saying, "Good luck picking this one."
needless to say..... I still haven't picked it.
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by FFVison » 3 Dec 2007 14:09
Puzzlebox wrote:I've opened the first cylinder on my American 5100 in about 15 min... and went back to the lock shop to get another. The Locksmith sold me one saying, "Good luck picking this one."
needless to say..... I still haven't picked it.
Heh. That's funny. He probably gave you a cylinder with a screwy pin height combo. The first pin is probably a really deep cut and then followed up by a really shallow cut. If you have one, I would try using an offset pick like an offset diamond if you have one. If you can, try to pick it from back to front. Now, granted, I'm still pretty much a newbie when it comes to picking and you probably have already tried all of this, but I figured I would help out in case you missed something  . Anyway, good luck with picking that one.
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by superchicken » 10 Dec 2007 18:14
I have that same brinks lock. Any tips you can give a noob on picking it? I havent even attempted it yet cuz I think its still out of my league.
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by freakparade3 » 10 Dec 2007 20:31
superchicken wrote:I have that same brinks lock. Any tips you can give a noob on picking it? I havent even attempted it yet cuz I think its still out of my league.
It has serrated and spool pins. VERY light tension is your best friend picking a brinks shrouded lock. When you feel the plug turn slightly it means you have a false set with the spool pins. Ease off tension a little bit and go back to each pin apply pressure to get the spool past the shear line. You will feel the tension wrench turn a little as you push the pins up, let it. This is a tough lock, don't give up!!
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