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Need Help Picking My Car Door(2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac)

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Need Help Picking My Car Door(2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac)

Postby Spectre42 » 3 May 2004 1:41

A while back I purchased the ALPSX automotive pick set

http://www.lockpicks.com/product.asp?3=74

Anyway, I've been trying to get into my 2001 Ford Explorer Sport Trac with the picks for a while. I found one of the Ford picks would, after playing with it enough, turn the plug a substantial amount, but would never fully reach the "unlock" position no matter how much shaking/rocking of the pick i did (i even tried single pin picking after it would turn). I've tried just about everything, but still am hopeless.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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Postby mbell » 3 May 2004 1:59

This is why many people don't pick car locks directly, but manipulate the locking rods on the locking mechanism instead.
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Postby Dark Angel » 3 May 2004 3:22

I presume that the lock fitted to this vehicle is a double waifer lock and not a tibbe lock,all the fords in the uk are fitted with tibbe locks?.
If it is a standard double waifer lock then use the J1 snake pick from your set and the wishbone tension wrench.Then simply apply some pressure to the wrench whilst first raking the top waifers and then the bottom ones,keep doing this until the lock starts to turn and then gives.
I use this technique all the time and can usually open a lock in less than a minute doing this.Some times you will get a stubborn one,but they usually open pretty quickly.

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Postby jumb » 3 May 2004 3:29

Maybe its some cool secruity pin?
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Postby Luke » 3 May 2004 3:31

SIDEBAR?
"I took the path less travelled by and that made all the difference"
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Postby salzi684 » 3 May 2004 3:53

Are you sure you are turning the lock in the right direction?
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Postby Varjeal » 3 May 2004 8:34

Are you using enough tension AFTER the lock has been picked? Sounds like maybe you just need to exert some more tension. Vehicle locks generally require far more tension to complete the turn because of spring pressure and all the fancy linkage that weighs on the lock. Try using a small screwdriver to complete the opening.
*insert witty comment here*
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 3 May 2004 17:54

pickinf automotive locks is a complete waste of time

that vehicle can be slim jimmed in 15 seconds
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Postby scientist » 3 May 2004 18:59

The last time I tried to pick an automotive lock was on a chevy van from 1990(my first car). The lock had a neat mechanism against picking, there was a spring-loaded insert in the back that held the plug in place if it was not pushed back by the key.

Never figured out how to get around that, just decided to start the van with its key ^_^

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Postby Luke » 4 May 2004 2:38

Exactly, automotive locks will have all kinds of B^^chy little things to make life hell. Car opening tools are prolly ur best bet.
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Postby Dark Angel » 4 May 2004 5:57

Here in the uk,none of the manufacturers use side bars on there locks,as far as i know so they are pretty straight foward to pick.

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Postby scientist » 5 May 2004 1:12

Then again, car lock are that way for a reason....

Exactly why are you trying to get into a ford explorer you own?

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Postby CitySpider » 5 May 2004 1:32

While I'm usually the one being skeptical, this guy strikes me as pretty on the level. Looks like he's just using his own car for practice. I wouldn't recommend that, but if it's all you've got...
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Postby HeadHunterCEO » 8 May 2004 11:38

well if you are that hell bent on piicking it here is some help

its six wafers in the door 3 up and three down and the first on is down 2nd is up and so on

and the ignition is + 2 for a total of eight
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Postby ghostdog » 12 May 2004 18:22

HeadHunterCEO wrote:well if you are that hell bent on piicking it here is some help

its six wafers in the door 3 up and three down and the first on is down 2nd is up and so on

and the ignition is + 2 for a total of eight


I'm curious about this. I have 2 Fords. A 93 Thunderbird, and a 95 Explorer. I have a key that works both vehicles. I took the original keys and had a new one cut with one side for the car, the other for the truck. That would make me think that Ford locks only have pins or wafers on one side of the lock.

This key I had made works the doors and ignition.
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