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Double keyed locks, are they worth it?

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Double keyed locks, are they worth it?

Postby Isepic » 20 Dec 2007 2:34

For practice reasons, are double keyed locks worth it? I'm talking about the locks that are keyed on both sides, as opposed to a knob on one side, and a key on the other. I look it at it as if I get twice as many pins per purchase, but for straight up picking, would the pin-holes be drilled the same, or no?
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Re: Double keyed locks, are they worth it?

Postby Wrenchman » 20 Dec 2007 7:40

Isepic wrote:Would the pin-holes be drilled the same, or no?


I'm no expert but, no, they will never ever be drilled the same!

So just buy what ever your skill allows you to pick and then the next time,
something a little more difficult and so on!

And if your in for it for the pins, then feel free to buy "euro cylinders"!

:D

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Postby Wolfe » 20 Dec 2007 9:02

the pins on both sides of the lock will be pinned the same to fit the same key. You can however repin one side if you wished to a different keying(put different pins in it).

I get what your saying refer to above but there are no pin holes as to what you refer to them. ( ignoring the side bar) The bottom pins of the lock are what mate with a key to aline the pins to turn the plug to engage the lock.(If that makes any sense to you)

if not heres a basic picture.
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Re: Double keyed locks, are they worth it?

Postby yoyoboy » 20 Dec 2007 17:50

Isepic wrote:For practice reasons, are double keyed locks worth it? I'm talking about the locks that are keyed on both sides, as opposed to a knob on one side, and a key on the other. I look it at it as if I get twice as many pins per purchase, but for straight up picking, would the pin-holes be drilled the same, or no?


If I understand you correctly, you are referring to a double cylinder deadbolt.
A double cylinder deadbolt is only adds security if you have a glass door, or a window right next your door so that a burglar can reach in and open the door.
If this is a residence this can be extremely dangerous in the event of a fire. In most places it is against the law (fire codes).
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Postby yoyoboy » 20 Dec 2007 17:53

oops, I just you meant for picking. the drilling bit threw me off, and made me think that you were installing one.
and yes, you will get 2X the pins. Just mix them up and repin.
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Postby linty » 20 Dec 2007 18:35

definitely worthwhile. the pinning will be the same but they will both be different to pick.
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Postby Gelmar » 21 Dec 2007 13:00

One of my kwiksets is a double cylinder. Although the same key works for both one side is more difficult than the other. Definately a cost effective way to get some practicing in.
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Postby Wrenchman » 25 Dec 2007 14:09

Yeah, and not only that but, turning the plug CCW can be even worse!

So you'll basically have 4 locks to practise on!

:D

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Re: Double keyed locks, are they worth it?

Postby LeeNo » 25 Dec 2007 20:15

Isepic wrote:For practice reasons, are double keyed locks worth it?
Yes. Each side will pick differently and you get double the challenge for less than double the price.
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