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Is this a Good Set?......Here's your answer

Picked all the easy locks and want to step up your game? Further your lock picking techniques, exchange pro tips, videos, lessons, and develop your skills here.

Is this a Good Set?......Here's your answer

Postby le.nutzman » 9 Jan 2008 9:43

So i've been surfing through the forums lately and i've seen out of all the postings, alot of people, new people which is really encouraging, ask the time old question about picks................Is this a good set for me to buy?

Well, here's your answer. The following is the combination of two separate posts from me but you get the point. I hope this helps all the new people that i've been seeing on the sight lately, welcome to the forums and happy lock picking:

You know, recently i made a similar post in the Lockpicks - Manual Forum titled Pick Clarification as i'm about to make now.....

Any set is good, it's as good as you make it, I have sets from Southord, HPC, Peterson International, custom made and home brew. It's what you think you need and what you're good at working with.

Out of all the picks i own, i still fall back on the Southord standard hook pick because of it's ease of use and versatility. My tension wrenches range from Southord short flex, Peterson Pry-Bar Lite to home made wrenches using nothing more than large bobby pins. The point is what makes a good set is what works best for you.

Some things you should know about finishing your picks, Southord and Peterson picks normally don't need to be finished. Southord ships ready to pick. Peterson's picks are thinner and stronger to a point, and really, HPC picks are about the only picks i've ever seen that needed to be hand finished upon receipt, and they did seem to be a bit thicker than all my other picks. Any pick will bend, and with it does it isn't because it's crappy craftsmanship, it's because you're forcing it, which isn't how lock picking works. It's an art of delicate finesse, light yet constant tension and trial and error. Yes, the picks do play a part in delivering noticeable feed back to tell you what you're doing inside the lock, but from the picks i've sampled from the different companies, i haven't noticed that much of a difference. It's more so comfort in holding the picks in your hand. The Peterson molded handles are more comfortable than the Southord metal handles......get the picture?

Sure, everyone here has their preferred brands of picks, but in the end, when the pick bends, it's because you bent it, not because of how it's made. Go ahead and experiment, that's what it's all about, but anyone will tell you, most of the time on the average lock, regardless of all the picks they own, they fall back on either the short hook or the half diamond and a standard tension wrench.

Something else that I'll just throw in here because it's probably a safe bet that it's already happened to someone (me included). As someone NEW to this hobby/sport/profession, just because you can buy the Peterson International G4 set or the Falle basic pick set (which is only sold to bona fide locksmiths) doesn't mean you're going to be opening locks any faster or immediately increase your talent and/or skills 10x. The tools are nice and custom to each of their respective manufacturers, but they all have or follow the same basic design principle, standard hook or half diamond. And then they throw some other designs in just for kicks and grins.

The point here, don't go spending large amounts of money on trying to get the most expensive "best" set you can get your hands on if you're just starting out. They aren't going to make you any better until you've satisfied the primers and fully understand the fundamentals of lock picking, then and only then will the type of picks you use make a difference, and even then the difference is going to be so marginal that you probably won't even notice unless you're looking for it. What you'll run into, is buying that $500 lockpick set and still not be able to pick that Medeco M3 or Abloy or whatever and end up frustrated because you'll think the tools let you down. Now you've been beat down by a lock and on top of it, you've spent large amounts of money to ensure that you could do it. I can pick American 5200 padlocks just as fast and easily with any pick i own, custom, cheap or otherwise. See the picture?

It's not the tools that pick the lock, it's the person. The tools are nothing more than an extension of the person manipulating the lock.
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Postby Wrenchman » 9 Jan 2008 11:22

Perfectly well said nuzt!

I hereby testify, under oath, that; ALL information contained on
the above post is true and can be verified!

:D

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Before you pick a lock:
The first thing that you should do is check to make sure that
the lock is your's and secondly make sure its not in use.
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Postby rekonstrukted » 10 Jan 2008 8:21

Very good point. I believe it is best for new people to start out with homebrew picks. Some people may disagree with this (as pick making can be a pretty advanced subject) but hear me out. Having really started only a few months ago, I'm fairly new to the sport. I made my first pick (half diamond) from a template in Steven Hampton's "Modern High Security Locks: How to Open Them" using some brick strap and a few hand files. Since then I have moved to hacksaw blades, but that half diamond is still intact. Making your own picks really teaches you discipline and patience. After all, you never want to see a couple hours of work go to waste in a split-second. Taking the time to file out your own pickset makes you more careful with the picks.

Ok my rant is over 8)
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Postby LeeNo » 10 Jan 2008 19:28

You have a very keen sense for the obvious le.nutzman! And I agree 100%. If you have a piece of steel shaped like a lockpick and if you know how to use it, you can open locks.

Well said.
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Postby gstrendkill » 10 Jan 2008 22:58

agreed. very well worded and a good point to make
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